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  • Topic by fountainheadkc. Forum: 陈凯෹...


    Chinese language produces living dead 中文语言只制造活死人

    陈凯/纪录片“孔学堂之争”已上映
    Documentary Film "Mass Confucian" Screened


    Film Producer: Philip Chung

    http://www.sgvtribune.com/arts-and-enter...n-film-festival

    Kai Chen's Words: 3/19/14

    It will be interesting to see this film. The producer had a cameraman follow me in my protest against the Confucius Classroom program in Hacienda La Puente School District.


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    Confucius Classroom movie to open at Los Angeles Asian Film Festival

    By Steve Scauzillo, San Gabriel Valley Tribune
    POSTED: 03/15/14, 9:41 PM PDT |

    As a boy growing up in Temple City in the late 1980s, Philip Chung noticed the Chinese signs appearing above the boulevard shops and wondered what was happening to his community.

    “What does it really mean?” he asked.

    Today, the 43-year-old playwright and director is posing the same question in his new documentary on the Confucius Classroom, a Chinese Ministry of Education program launched at Cedarlane Middle School in Hacienda Heights in 2010.

    Chung’s 25-minute film, “Mass Confucian: Chinese Language or Communist Propaganda?,” which premieres May 3 at the Los Angeles Asian Film Festival at the Directors Guild of America on Sunset Boulevard in West Hollywood, explores the controversy that followed the Chinese government class as a component of Chinese immigration in the San Gabriel Valley.

    Chung spent three years pointing his camera at the Chinese language and culture program in the Hacienda La Puente Unified School District that left a trail of recall attempts, racial epithets and anti-communist sentiment from the communities of Hacienda Heights and La Puente to the halls of Congress.

    Chung went into the project with an open mind, he said.

    “I had my own perceptions that it was about white people reacting to a community changing,” he said. “But it is more complicated than that.”

    As a Korean-American, Chung knows about growing up as a minority.

    But the bespectacled director, who helped write the script of the 2011 movie, “Fast Five,” also recognizes the changes created by the Asian wave that began in Monterey Park, moved to Arcadia, San Gabriel and Temple City and east to Hacienda Heights, Rowland Heights, Walnut and Diamond Bar.

    By 1994, the San Gabriel Valley had eight of the top 10 cities in the United States with the highest population of Chinese Americans. Twenty years later, Asian Americans equal one-third to one-half the ethnic makeup of those cities.

    “The intent was to see if we can better understand this issue,” Chung said, during an interview at his cramped office in South Pasadena located adjacent to the famous Gus’s BBQ.

    What exactly is the issue, he was asked.

    “Well, the bigger issue is about change. Not all racial change but it is generational,” he said. “It is about a community that is changing.”

    The film includes interviews from opponents and proponents of Confucius Classroom and footage from heated school board meetings from 2010 and 2011. Hacienda Heights resident Rudy Obad spoke of his 30 years in the Marines fighting the communists and said he doesn’t want a program sponsored by the communist regime of China in his community.

    Likewise, Kai Chen is shown serving recall papers on the HLPUSD board for supporting the program. Eventually, the recall failed and the school board voted to launch the program but without the Chinese government’s grant of $30,000.

    By 2013, the Chinese government had placed 458 Confucius Classroom or Confucius Institutes in the United States, up from 287 in 2010, according to the film.

    Chung said he learned a lot from listening to Obad and Chen. He saw them as perhaps representing an older generation who’ve fought against communism: Obad in Vietnam and Chen in China, whose family was persecuted for his ties to Taiwan, a democratic country.

    “In their own ways, they have a valid point of view,” Chung said.

    In the film, school board member Jay Chen, former board member Norman Hsu and others in the broader Los Angeles educational community support the program as a way to teach students Mandarin and open up doors for college graduates from HLPUSD to broaden career opportunities, including jobs in China.

    Jeffrey Tso, a student at Wilson High School, appears in the film in support. He said he wished he had learned Mandarin when he was in middle school.

    A key moment in the film is when Tso asks all the students in the board room opposed to Confucius to stand up. Not one does.

    “Students were always in support of the class,” Chung said. “And those taking the class were pretty diverse and included Latino students.”

    The film seems to say that young adults don’t carry the same objections to change or diversity as middle-aged or senior adults.

    “Older people — and I include myself — are kind of set in our ways,” he said.

    He’s attempting to arrange a screening for students and teachers at HLPUSD. But he’s not sure the movie will pick at a scab that has healed.

    Board member Anthony Duarte suggested he screen it at the Hacienda Heights Community Center rather than at a district school. “But if a teacher wanted to show it would be fine as long as he or she incorporated it into the learning environment,” Duarte said.

    Chung has lent the film to college students at Biola University in La Mirada, who watched it on Feb. 22, and to students of Pomona College Professor Gilda Ochoa, who appears in the film and grew up in the community.

    “We want to reach students,” he said. “They are the ones who are going to be thrust into these issues.” Just like he was while growing up in Temple City and at Temple City High School where he graduated.

    But Chung won’t say the film presents a definitive approach to working through demographic changes in the San Gabriel Valley or in Hacienda Heights, where 37 percent are Asian. Rather, he calls it “more like a snapshot” of a community dealing with the societal issue.

    Chung’s light-hearted demeanor became more serious when he spoke of a tough lesson he learned from the experience of making the documentary.

    “I realized if you have strong convictions, any constructive criticism of that will feel like an attack,” he said.

  • Exclusive: Arabs’ Language Oppression Squelches Intellectual Growth

    by DR. SAMI ALRABAA July 31, 2009

    We Arabs not only suffer from lack of political and religious freedom, and economic backwardness, but we also suffer from a huge language and thinking problem, which hampers civilized change.

    The Arab countries have two levels of language: local Arabic, i.e. national and regional, called language varieties (dialects) versus Standard Arabic. There is Egyptian spoken Arabic, Syrian Arabic, Saudi Arabic, Moroccan Arabic, etc. These dialects are our mother tongues. They are, however confined to daily spoken conversations. We are not allowed to use them in writing, especially in books, print media, school textbooks, and other official documents.

    Standard Arabic is the official language across all Arab states. It is not, though, our mother tongue; actually no one speaks this language as a mother tongue, we begin learning it at school at the age of 6 or 7. It is our second language as opposed to our national and regional spoken Arabic which is indeed our mother tongue.

    As Standard Arabic has been the language of literacy in the Arab countries for 1400 years, used in poetry and translating scientific books into Arabic (especially during the so-called golden ages), it developed a huge repertoire of vocabulary. Spoken Arabic (dialects), on the other hand, has been stigmatized, colloquial and remained limited to simple daily conversations. The bulk of its vocabulary stayed poor.

    However, when you ask an Arab what their mother tongue is, they would misleadingly say, “It is Arabic,” meaning Standard Arabic, which is not true. Spoken Arabic is our mother tongue.

    Both varieties/levels of Arabic share some vocabulary, which very often are differently pronounced. They also completely differ in terms of grammar and sentence structure.

    Middle Eastern Arabs in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq, and Palestine use similar spoken Arabics. When they meet and talk they easily understand each other despite diverse local vocabulary and pronunciation variations.

    North African Arabs speak almost a completely different spoken Arabic. A Syrian speaking to a Moroccan or Algerian, for instance, would maybe understand five percent.

    Standard Arabic is for all Arabs a lingua franca; it is like Latin to the Spaniards, French, or Italians whose national languages stemmed and developed from Latin. As the Roman Empire ruled Spain, France, Italy, and Portugal, Latin was the language of education and science, but people in these countries, due to widespread illiteracy, used their own spoken dialects of Latin, exactly like Arabs are doing.

    As Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula invaded what became today’s modern Arab countries, they imposed Arabic as the official language. Local languages like Aramaic, Pharaohnic, Cananic, and Hebrew were banned. As the majority of people in these countries were illiterate, they managed to learn a kind of Arabic, i.e. spoken Arabic, exactly like the Caribbean natives who learned English; a kind of broken English that is grammatically, and in terms of pronunciation, different from Standard English.
    Standard Arabic, the official language across the Arab world is archaic, with an archaic grammar and method of analysis and teaching.

    Therefore, Arab students find it extremely difficult to learn this language, struggling with its grammar and rigid structure. Arabic Language Councils and the Muslim religious establishment have been adamant against allowing any language reform. They have claimed that it is the language of the holy Koran and hence it is sacred.

    While languages like English, French, and German have gone through linguistic reforms, Standard Arabic has not. While all these other languages have incorporated modern vocabulary and modern structures, Standard Arabic Councils have employed a purist custodian role.

    Sixty percent of Arabs are still illiterate or semi-literate and thus they are ostracized from reading and accessing education. The majority of Arabs sparsely read. They hate the pedantic structure of Standard Arabic. Their lack of command of this language forces them to do so. It is like Latin to Spaniards if they were forced to use it.

    Standard Arabic is an artificial language. We Arabs do not identify ourselves with this “language.” We are not native to it.

    People around the globe, especially Westerners, enjoy reading books because these use a language which is theirs. It reflects their mother tongue, culture, and mindset. Some books become bestsellers, but in the Arab world we lack this natural phenomenon.

    In a comment on an article I posted on an Arab site, Wafa Sultan tells the story of her illiterate mother. An Iranian friend spoke Standard Arabic to her mother, but the lady did not understand a word. He was shocked and asked, “How does she understand the news on TV and the radio (which use Standard Arabic)?” Wafa answered, “She doesn’t.” The man concluded that the poor woman is not only imprisoned within the walls of illiteracy, she is ostracized; she does not know what is going on.

    Using one’s mother tongue is a basic human right. The UN Charter stresses that. Humans have the right to use their mother tongue, or at least one that is close to it. The Kurds, for example, have been denied this right for decades. And we Arabs are still denied this right. We are forced to use a second language.

    Both the Muslim religious establishment and pan-Arabists insist on preserving Standard Arabic as the official language for religious and political reasons.

    The religious establishment insists on using Standard Arabic and its sheikhs sound well read and knowledgeable of a language which the majority of Arabs do not understand. Hence, Muslims clerics sound like scholars, and the language of the Koran sounds like really Godly.

    Pan-Arabists claim that Standard Arabic is a factor of unity among the Arab countries.

    The truth of the matter is Arab societies have little in common, maybe backwardness and oppression. They are different in terms of language and culture. They all were colonies of the Muslim empire, subjugated by Islam.

    Linguistic research has shown that language and thought go together. When an Arab wants or has to express themselves in a formal setting, they think in their dialect (spoken Arabic) and try to formulate their thoughts in an alien language (a second language), i.e. Standard Arabic. They stumble. Their dialect is poor. It is not equipped with conceptual terms to explain abstract matters, and their Standard Arabic is poor.

    For example, when an Arab politician like Amr Mousa, Chairman of the Arab League, improvises a statement he speaks Standard Arabic as though giving strenuous birth. He tries to accommodate his thoughts, embedded in spoken Arabic, into Standard Arabic formulas which rarely make sense. You have to figure out what he tries to say. The result is hazy statements. More often than not, some Arab politicians say things which they do not mean, but they sound literate.

    This is one of the reasons why Arabs, in particular politicians, are so confused and vague. They do not know what to say, and if they say something they are not in command of what they say. They lack command of a rich modern means of expression. Therefore, they use repressive means to govern. They lack a flexible, resourceful, sophisticated means of argument. As they do not possess a persuasive language, they resort to repressive violent measures.

    In an Internet forum in Arabic, the majority of contributors hailed the idea of reforming the language situation in the Arab world.

    Among other things I suggested melting both spoken Arabic and Standard Arabic in one language. As times passes by, this new language variety would be internalized by everybody and at the end of the day we would have a literate mother tongue through which we think and express ourselves. We do not need to switch between the language we think in and another that is alien to us. Only then Arab thinking would match the reality on the ground. We will be able to say what we really think.

    A person who uses a resourceful means of expression as a mother tongue thinks more clearly. And this is exactly what is missing in Arab societies.

    FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Dr. Sami Alrabaa, an ex-Muslim, is a professor of Sociology and an Arab-Muslim culture specialist. He has taught at Kuwait University, King Saud University, and Michigan State University. He also writes for the Jerusalem Post.

  • Topic by fountainheadkc. Forum: 陈凯෹...



    The Glazov Gang-Kai Chen's Escape From China's Tyranny.

    Jamie wrote: "NEW BLOCKBUSTER Glazov Gang with China's Basketball Superstar Kai Chen Kai shares his journey out of the tyranny of communist China to the liberty of America, explains how language shapes totalitarianism and freedom, how Obama has annihilated America as a moral leader in the world, and much, much more. Don't miss it!

  • Topic by fountainheadkc. Forum: 陈凯෹...



    新书介绍:乒乓外交
    Kai Chen's Book Review on "Ping Pong Diplomacy" by Nick Griffin


    "Ping Pong Diplomacy" Amazon book link:

    http://www.amazon.com/Ping-Pong-Diplomac...+pong+diplomacy

    Youtube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5MkFSC2Xfk

    "One in a Billion" Amazon book link:

    http://www.amazon.com/One-In-Billion-Jou...ion%2C+Kai+chen

    Kai Chen's Email to Nick Griffin

    Dear Nick: 4/15/14

    I just finished reading your book "Ping Pong Diplomacy". It took me back decades to those brutal, struggling and unforgettable years. I am glad that my experience as a former pro-athlete in China, my book "One in a Billion - Journey toward Freedom" and "My Way" (the Youtube program of NTDTV, by Fiona Zhao, the producer) all contributed to your accurate recount of the important historical moments and events in China and in the world at the time. I am truly grateful to you for returning history to its original form, not by political propaganda, but by a person's conscience and drive to seek truth. I thank you.

    Your book is a fascinating read, since I have experienced all "sports as political tool" in China. Still many facts astonished me:

    I didn't know Jiang Qing, Mao's wife, has a foot with six toes. I know the factional struggles in the NSAC (National Sports and Athletics Commission) and the Ping Pong teams. But you provided more details in the tragedies and atrocities.

    I now realized when I was forced back to Beijing from Guangzhou Military District in 1971, I was indeed with the Ping Pong team players on the same plane from the World Championships in Japan. I now remember Xi Enting, Liang Geliang and some women players with me on the same plane. They were signing autographs for some fans. The tourists looked like they were either from Japanese or Hong Kong. When you interviewed me over the phone, I couldn't remember the players' names. NSAC General Secretary Song Zhong invited me to the Oriental Hotel to persuade me back to Beijing, after I escaped from Beijing. The talk lasted more than one hour. I wonder why he spent so much time with me. Did I have any choice?

    As I read through the book, I learned that Zhuang Zedong died in 2013. Though I didn't have personal relationship with him, I pitied him for his life choices. When he was the head of NSAC, he came to talk with us once. The August 1st Basketball team was at a pre-game banquet in a Beijing hotel. I forgot against which third world team we would play (either North Korea or Egypt) the next day. Zhuang came to reiterate the official political line to us - Friendship First, meaning we could not win by too many points. I could still see him in a very awkward manner when he talked as we towered above him. The last time I heard about him was a few years ago, when he took his Japanese wife touring Shenzhen where an old friend of mine who became a sports bureaucrat in Shenzhen met him. The friend also spoke of him with a deep pity. Zhuang indeed was a tragic figure in a political and morally perverse episode in Chinese history. He was abused by many and an abuser to many. In the end, he had no idea what truly happened to him.

    When I wrote my book/my memoir (One in a Billion - Journey toward Freedom), I indeed was motivated to recount that part of history in some memorable and accurate fashion. I realized if I didn't recount that part of history, the truth would be lost for no one had the courage and mindset to do so. Most Chinese refuse to write memoirs even today due to their mindset, for reasons of fear of offending someone and the authority, therefore suffering the consequences. Thus many episodes in the Chinese history, especially in China's sports history, are either missing or distorted by official/governmental propaganda. True history is written and recorded by conscientious individuals like you and me, not by collectives and the authority by government. I am satisfied that you wrote this book with your conscience and the best of your ability as a writer.

    Keep in touch and please accept my sincere gratefulness. Kai Chen

  • From Fiona Zhao:

    1/3/14 On Facebook

    长期生活在中国文化中的人,对痛苦相当认同。认为痛苦、不幸,无奈是人生的常态,而幸福、快乐是非常态。所以才会有“人生不如意之事,十之八九”,“人生无常”的各种说法。当人认同了痛苦之后,你就会发现人们做出的选择都是反对自己幸福的;同时,人们会用用这些选择带来的不幸、无奈来证实自己人生悲观无奈的看法是正确的。由此形成了完全负向的人生观,人虽活着,却缺少活力,人虽喘气,却没有生命的气息。

    其实,人是可以自由的,人是可以幸福的是一种“信仰”,而这种信仰是来源与人与“神”的关系,也就是基督文明。认为人生是充满了喜乐的,生命值得庆贺的。而中国的“神”都是让人离开生活,遁世的,认为人之成为人,是一件令人沮丧的事情。这两种对生命,对人生的态度是完全反向的。这是一个非常深刻的议题,我思考了很久。认为我不属于一个反对我的存在以及反对生命存在的文化。最终决定彻底离开中国文化,走入基督文明,拥抱自己生命的意义。为此,付出了沉重的代价。但是,当我进入到自由中,体味到生活的甘甜,生命的激情时,我认为这一切是非常值得。Freedom is not free. 我的根从来就不在中国,我的根在自由里。不要来生不做中国人,这一刻起,就可以不做中国人。

  • Kai Chen's Words:

    China has never been a nation-state. China has always been a despotic dynasty. Today's China? A communist party-dynasty.

    About China as a dynasty but not as a nation-state, I have dwelled on this for sometime and come with this conclusion. I think it explains a lot about China's behavior as a regime. I have stated this concept in my testimony in the US Congress on the issue of Confucius Institute/Classroom in 2012. I certainly want the US scholars and academia to change their premise that China is just another nation-state.

    In terms of China's polity, it is a centralized authoritarian regime. Yet it is not a nation-state, for it does not respect the borders with the neighboring countries. It still views the neighbors as inferior subordinates, good only for giving tribute to the emperors for obtaining protection. China does not have a legitimate constitution, for in its pseudo-constitution the regime states that the communist party is always the superior authority, not to be challenged in anyway. China's basic domestic structure has no local autonomy and the provinces have no power to make laws for itself. China's government bureaucrats are making everything and every laws by whims and fiat. And the features of a dynasty following a logical cycle of declining legitimacy and power is too obvious to ignore.

    Most importantly, China's military does not have the concept of owing its loyalty to the central government. It is fragmented with each unit owing its loyalty to specific generals or powerful bureaucrats. Warlordism is a very likely outcome when the dynasty declines to the point of collapse.

    These are just some simply and obvious observations. I am sure there are more of such that resemble a dynasty more than a nation-state. The difference is that the previous dynasties were identifiable by a surname of the imperial family. But today's communist party-dynasty is identifiable for its collective mob mentality. Yet it is still the same with each generation weaker than before, until the end of the dynasty most likely by a coup or peasant rebellion to establish another dynasty. The cycle continues. Mao and his cohorts used communism only as a pretense to have established his own despotic dynasty. Only Mao gave it to his wife because no male heir was available. North Korea is the same as China, a dynasty with truly an identity of surname - Kim.

    I only hope the American foreign policy makers can catch on this concept by a more accurate observation, and formulate more effective policies toward China, rather than legitimating China as just another nation-state by a false premise.

  • Kai Chen's Words:

    China has never been a nation-state. China has always been a despotic dynasty. Today's China? A communist party-dynasty.

    About China as a dynasty but not as a nation-state, I have dwelled on this for sometime and come with this conclusion. I think it explains a lot about China's behavior as a regime. I have stated this concept in my testimony in the US Congress on the issue of Confucius Institute/Classroom in 2012. I certainly want the US scholars and academia to change their premise that China is just another nation-state.

    In terms of China's polity, it is a centralized authoritarian regime. Yet it is not a nation-state, for it does not respect the borders with the neighboring countries. It still views the neighbors as inferior subordinates, good only for giving tribute to the emperors for obtaining protection. China does not have a legitimate constitution, for in its pseudo-constitution the regime states that the communist party is always the superior authority, not to be challenged in anyway. China's basic domestic structure has no local autonomy and the provinces have no power to make laws for itself. China's government bureaucrats are making everything and every laws by whims and fiat. And the features of a dynasty following a logical cycle of declining legitimacy and power is too obvious to ignore.

    Most importantly, China's military does not have the concept of owing its loyalty to the central government. It is fragmented with each unit owing its loyalty to specific generals or powerful bureaucrats. Warlordism is a very likely outcome when the dynasty declines to the point of collapse.

    These are just some simply and obvious observations. I am sure there are more of such that resemble a dynasty more than a nation-state. The difference is that the previous dynasties were identifiable by a surname of the imperial family. But today's communist party-dynasty is identifiable for its collective mob mentality. Yet it is still the same with each generation weaker than before, until the end of the dynasty most likely by a coup or peasant rebellion to establish another dynasty. The cycle continues. Mao and his cohorts used communism only as a pretense to have established his own despotic dynasty. Only Mao gave it to his wife because no male heir was available. North Korea is the same as China, a dynasty with truly an identity of surname - Kim.

    I only hope the American foreign policy makers can catch on this concept by a more accurate observation, and formulate more effective policies toward China, rather than legitimating China as just another nation-state by a false premise.

  • 看看那些自相矛盾的名言和俗語!

    1、俗話說:好馬不吃回頭草;可俗話又說:浪子回頭金不換!
    2、俗話說:兔子不吃窩邊草;可俗話又說:近水樓台先得月!
    3、俗話說:宰相肚裡能撐船;可俗話又說:有仇不報非君子!
    4、俗話說:男子漢大丈夫,寧死不屈;可俗話又說:男子漢大丈夫,能屈能伸!
    5、俗話說:打狗還得看主人;可俗話又說:殺雞給猴看!
    6、俗話說:知無不言,言無不盡;可俗話又說:交淺勿言深,沉默是金!
    7、俗話說:車到山前必有路;可俗話又說:不撞南牆不回頭!
    8、俗話說:人不犯我,我不犯人;可俗話又說:先下手為強,後下手遭殃!
    9、俗話說:禮輕情誼重;可俗話又說:禮多人不怪!
    10、俗話說:人多力量大;可俗話又說:人多嘴雜!

    11、俗話說:買賣不成仁義在;可俗話又說:親兄弟,明算帳!
    12、俗話說:一個好漢三個幫;可俗話又說:靠人不如靠己!
    13、俗話說:人往高處走;可俗話又說:爬得高,摔得重!
    14、俗話說:一口唾沫一個釘;可俗話又說:人嘴兩張皮,咋說咋有理!
    15、俗話說:知識要有產權;俗話又說:不分享心裡不安!
    16、俗話說:亡羊補牢,未為遲也;可俗話又說:亡羊補牢,為時已晚!
    17、俗話說:瘦死的駱駝比馬大;可俗話又說:拔了毛的鳳凰不如雞!
    18、俗話說:寧可玉碎,不能瓦全;可俗話又說:留得青山在,不怕沒柴燒!  
    19、俗話說:人不可貌相,海水不可斗量;可俗話又說:人靠衣裳馬靠鞍!  
    20、俗話說:浪子回頭金不換;可俗話又說:狗改不了吃屎!

    21、俗話說:苦海無邊,回頭是岸;可俗話又說:開弓沒有回頭箭!
    22、俗話說:退一步海闊天空;可俗話又說:狹路相逢勇者勝!  
    23、俗話說:三百六十行,行行出狀元;可俗話又說:萬般皆下品,唯有讀書高!
    24、俗話說:書到用時方恨少;可俗話又說:百無一用是書生!  
    25、俗話說:金錢不是萬能的;可俗話又說:有錢能使鬼推磨!  
    26、俗話說:天無絕人之路;可俗話又說:天網恢恢,疏而不漏!
    27、俗話說:出淤泥而不染;可俗話又說:近朱者赤,近墨者黑!  
    28、俗話說:捉賊捉贓,捉姦捉雙;可俗話又說:欲加之罪,何患無辭!  
    29、俗話說:貧賤不能移!可俗話又說:人貧志短,馬瘦毛長!  
    30、俗話說:青取之於藍而勝於藍;可俗話又說:姜還是老的辣!

    31、俗話說:後生可畏;可俗話又說:嘴上無毛、辦事不牢!
    32、俗話說:有緣千里來相會;可俗話又說:不是冤家不聚頭!
    33、俗話說:在天願作比翼鳥,在地願為連理枝;可俗話又說:夫妻本是同林鳥,大難來時各自飛!
    34、俗話說:得饒人處且饒人;可俗話又說:縱虎歸山,後患無窮!
    35、俗話說:善有善報,惡有惡報;話又說:人善被人欺,馬善被人騎!
    36、俗話說:一分耕耘、一分收穫;可俗話又說:人無橫財不富、馬無夜草不肥!
    37、俗話說:小心駛得萬年船;可俗話又說:撐死膽大的,餓死膽小的!
    38、俗話說:量小非君子;可俗話又說:無毒不丈夫!
    39、俗話說:一寸光陰一寸金;可俗話又說:寸金難買寸光陰!  
    40、俗話說:日久見人心;可俗話又說:人心隔肚皮!

    41、俗話說:光陰似箭;可俗話又說:度日如年!
    42、俗話說:己所不欲,勿施於人;可俗話又說:順我者昌,逆我者亡!
    43、俗話說:邪不壓正;可俗話又說:道高一尺,魔高一丈!
    44、俗話說:小不忍則亂大謀;可俗話又說:不蒸饅頭蒸(爭)口氣!
    45、俗話說:人人為我,我為人人;可俗話又說:人不為己,天誅地滅!
    46、俗話說:不怕人不敬,就怕己不正;可俗話又說:眾口爍金,積毀銷骨!  
    47、俗話說:三個臭皮匠,勝過諸葛亮;可俗話又說:一個和尚挑水喝,兩個和尚抬水喝,三個和尚沒水喝!
    48、俗話說:不入虎穴,焉得虎子;可俗話又說:老虎屁股摸不得!  
    49、俗話說:百事孝為先;可俗話又說:忠孝不能兩全!
    50、俗話說:人無遠慮,必有近憂;可俗話又說:今朝有酒今朝醉! 
     
    51、俗話說:家事國事天下事,事事關心;可俗話又說:老婆孩子熱炕頭!
    52、俗話說:人定勝天;可俗話又說:天意難違!
    53、俗話說:愚公移山;可俗話又說:胳膊擰不過大腿!
    54、俗話說:哪裡跌倒哪裡爬起;可俗話又說:一失足成千古恨!
    55、俗話說:路不平有人鏟,事不平有人管;可俗話又說:自家掃取門前雪,莫管他人屋上霜!  
    56、俗話說:滴水之恩當湧泉相報!可俗話又說:過河拆橋、卸磨殺驢、兔死狗烹、鳥盡弓藏!
    57、俗話說:雙喜臨門;可俗話又說:福無雙進,禍不單行!  
    58、俗話說:人挪活,樹挪死;可俗話又說:滾石不生苔,轉業不生財!
    59、俗話說:嫁雞隨雞,嫁狗隨狗;可俗話又說:男怕選錯行,女怕嫁錯郎!
    60、俗話說:明人不做暗事;可俗話又說:兵不厭詐!

  • http://pjmedia.com/blog/assassination-rumors-in-china/

    Assassination Rumors in China

    A return to “the ruthless era of ancient Chinese palace politics”?


    by GORDON G. CHANG

    December 10, 2013 - 11:03 pm

    For about a week, assassination rumors have been swirling around the Chinese capital. According to reports carried in Hong Kong outlets such as Mingjing News, Zhou Yongkang has been detained for involvement in a plot to kill Xi Jinping, the newish ruler of China. Since then, various sites, especially the U.S.-based Boxun News, have carried articles relaying murderous activities attributed to Zhou, who was the country’s internal security czar until November 2012.

    Zhou, 71, has also been accused of using two members of the People’s Armed Police — once under his command — to kill his ex-wife. His two drivers reportedly confessed to their role in the murder and were given terms of 15 to 20 years in prison. According to news articles, they were released after serving just three and four years and given jobs in the state-run petroleum industry, which at the time was controlled by Zhou and his political allies.

    These various reports, widely circulated, remain unconfirmed, although it is clear the once mighty Zhou is in political trouble of some sort. In November, state media reported that he offered condolences to the family of an educator, an indication that he was still in good standing in the Party. Nonetheless, it is curious that Zhou has dropped out of view. He was last seen in public on October 1, at the National Day celebrations of the China University of Petroleum.

    Moreover, his son, Zhou Bin, is reported to be under a form of house arrest in Beijing and cooperating with authorities. A number of Zhou Yongkang’s associates in the petroleum industry — most notably Jiang Jiemin — have been detained. Also under investigation, according to one source, are Zhou’s secretary, bodyguards, and drivers.

    The rumors of last week, although highly sensational, provide a context for events in the past few months that at the time had seemed out-of-place. In August, Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post reported that Zhou was under investigation for corruption.

    Then, the move against Zhou seemed to be an unprecedented violation of the Communist Party’s unwritten rule that no member of the Politburo Standing Committee can be held accountable (Zhou left the Standing Committee, the apex of Chinese political power, in November 2012). The prosecution, however, becomes more understandable if he in fact plotted to kill Xi Jinping.

    It should also be noted that the rumors about Zhou’s coup attempt give credence to the stories that in March of 2012 there was gunfire inside Zhongnanhai, the Communist Party leadership compound in Beijing, and in the surrounding streets, where there were also armored car movements. And the unconfirmed stories add to the speculation that Bo Xilai, once China’s more openly ambitious politician, was trying to either raise a private army or encourage elements of the People’s Liberation Army to support him in subversive endeavors of some sort. Bo and Zhou are believed to have been, if not co-conspirators, then extremely close allies.

  • Topic by fountainheadkc. Forum: 陈凯෹...



    章家敦访谈/中国面临崩溃
    Gordon Chang "China on the Edge"


    http://freebeacon.com/chinese-naval-vess...ational-waters/
    China's warship challenges US Navy.

    I attended Gordon Chang's speech on China last night. I concur with his point that China is indeed on edge of lashing out/collapse. Something big is happening both in the Chinese regime's power circle and in the Chinese military. The recent aggressive behavior on the part of Chinese military signals a desperate and very shaky political situation in China.

    China has never been a nation state. China has always been a despotic dynasty. Today's China is a "communist party dynasty". It does not respect borders. Its territories expands and contracts according to the power strength from the central government. It views surrounding countries not as neighbors, but as subjects of the emperors. Its military owns loyalty not to the state, but to particular persons in the power structure. With the communist party dynasty's last gasps to survive, most likely it will lash out at the neighboring countries and the US, as the signs manifested recently.

    China's economy is faltering with only 1-2 % real growth rate (the regime brags about 7-8%). The banks are in the mode of defaulting. The regional governments in the provinces are splitting. The Xi's position in the recent trasition is very shaky to say the least. The military's hard-liners such as General Liu Yazhou is ascending via threatening rhetoric toward the US and Japan and the neighboring countries. With Obama's appeasement policies in the world toward tyrannies, we are approching the situation before WWII. Brace yourself for a perfect storm.

    Reference:

    Gordon Guthrie Chang (Chinese: 章家敦; pinyin: Zhāng Jiādūn) is a lawyer, author, and television pundit, best known for his book The Coming Collapse of China (2001), in which he argued that the hidden non-performing loans of the "Big Four" Chinese State banks would likely bring down China's financial system and its communist government and China would collapse in 2006. In Nuclear Showdown: North Korea Takes On the World (2006), Chang suggests that North Korea is most likely to target Japan, not South Korea. Chang suggests that North Korean nuclear ambitions could be forestalled if there was concerted multi-national diplomacy, with some "limits to patience" backed up by threat of an all-out Korean war.

    Gordon Chang continues to maintain that China is on the brink of collapse and that the people are one step away from revolution.[2] He also argues that China is a "new dot-com bubble", adding that the rapid growth by China is not supported by various internal factors such as decrease in population growth as well as slowing retail sales.[3] In a separate interview, he remarked that China achieved its 149.2% of its current trade surplus with the United States through "lying, cheating and stealing" and that if China decided to realize its threat that had been expressed since August 2007 to sell its US Treasurys, it would actually hurt its own economy which is reliant on exports to the United States; the economy of the United States would be hurt by a sell off of Treasurys, causing the United States to buy less from China, which would in turn hurt the Chinese economy.

  • Topic by fountainheadkc. Forum: 陈凯෹...





    Some Thoughts about Mandela's Passing
    陈凯新作/曼德拉过世一思


    by Kai Chen 12/6/2013

    If someone said this to a Jew - "I think Nazism is good, only Hitler didn't practice it right", the Jew probably would spit on his face. But when Mandela claimed that communism the ideal is good, only no one in the world practiced it right, no one in the world reacted, due to political correctness. Everyone remains silent and ignores/denies the evil in this statement of endorsement/sympathy, due to fear of being called a racist. There is a parallel between Obama's outrageous anti-American, anti-Constitution, illegal behavior in the White House, and blind singing of undeserved praise of Mandela today.

    This is why when Obama skipped this year's Lincoln's Gettysburg Speech anniversary celebration, no one said anything and ignored the hidden evil in such an act. But when Obama is going to Mandela's funeral, everyone has to sing in praise of him, due to the political correctness.

    This is why today's world is sick and dangerous: If a white person says something hateful about someone not white, it is racism and a hell will be raised. But if someone not white says something hateful about a white person, it is NOT racism and a deafening silence ensues. Logic and conscience told me something terribly wrong about this.

    In today's world and America, if one ever said anything to show sympathy to Nazism, it is NOT tolerated. But if someone said anything to show sympathy to Communism, not only is he tolerated in society, he is celebrated, and worse, he can even be elected into the White House, or idolized as an icon in the world. Logic and conscience told me something indeed is terribly wrong about this.

    In today's world and America, if someone divides people into races and treats each differently with discrimination, it will draw moral indignation and criticism. But if someone divides people into social/economic classes and treats each differently with discrimination, then no one reacts to it. The society and government even tout such practices as just, progressive and necessary. The society and government even invent tax code based on such illogical and immoral code to reflect this morally degenerate notion. Something indeed is terribly wrong about this.

    This is why today's world is so screwed up and dangerous:

    Communism/Socialism as an ideal is evil itself. It has killed over 100 million innocent lives in the 20th Century alone. It has caused unspeakable moral degradation of humanity everywhere it has been practiced. It has created countless zombies without souls in the world whose only purpose is to devour other human beings. Until/unless people pluck up their courage to admit this truth, Not to conform to some political correctness to ignore and deny the unimaginable/unspeakable atrocities caused by Communism/Socialism, the world remains perverted and dangerous. Wake up people! You are digging your own grave by this mortal flaw in your thinking and mindset, by this moral confusion and degradation that will doom the world into another dark age.

    I speak about this danger and degradation as an eye witness to the Communist/Socialist crimes and atrocities. I pray for America and for the world of humanity facing this mortal danger today, much like the situation before WWII. It seems we are repeating history by ignoring and forgetting what has happened to humanity in the 20th Century. Indeed, wake up people.
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    Quote from Dimon Liu:

    "Yes, Kai Chen - I know this about Mandela. I met Mandela in October, 1990 in Norway. In fact, I sat next to him. I asked Mandela to help Chinese democratic activists. Mandela refused. He told me that during his darkest days fighting against white supremacists and apartheid, it was the Chinese Communist Party that gave him unfailing moral and financial supports; and he was not about to be disloyal and work against them. It took me many years to understand that Mandela saw his duty was to his people and his country first. He was not the universalist that I and many others had hoped, but he did right, and he did well, by his people and his country. For that, he was a great man. I am, and we must all be grateful that such a man lived in our time."

    My thought:

    Indeed Mandela was not a principled man, turning a blind eye to the Chinese students killed on Tiananmen Square in 1989. Should we say that Stalin is a great man because he fought Nazi Germany? He did that purely out of his instinct of survival. The above statement makes me think Mandela did the same, unless you prove to me otherwise.

    I expect a principled man from Mandela, as the media portraits him to be. But I have found an expedient, interest-oriented communist sympathizer who wouldn't give a damn about the oppressed people in the other parts of the world, especially the unarmed students and people on the Tiananmen Square being slaughtered. I was there in 1989. In is unconscionable for Mandela to accept the butcher's financial support yet ignore the communist atrocities. He is very small and ugly in this regard. I cannot consider him being a great man at all, no matter how many people worship him. My conscience simply will not allow me to do so.
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    My thoughts on the misconceptions on Communism:

    Communism is not just unworkable. It is evil. It is evil because it artificially divides people into different economic classes/groups and treat each differently with discrimination. What is its difference with Nazism that divides people into racial groups and treat each differently with discrimination. Who are you to decide into what group/class I belong?! Are you God? This is where evil comes in when people pretend to be and play God.
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    More thoughts:

    Indeed, human flaws will be forgiven if they are recognized as flaws and asked for forgiveness. But these flaws are tauted as virtues, as in the case of Mandela. That I must condemn. Tauting communism as something good only practiced wrong is to confuse what is different with what is evil. That very confusion puts one into the ranks of evil. Many atrocities in the world are committed because of this confusion and corruption. Hitler and Mao didn't kill that many themselves. They have helpers - the multitude of "willing executioners". If Mandela is just a local politician as viewed that way, I have no problem. To taut him as some moral example to be emulated around the world is a moral corruption itself.

    I only hope those who argue with me with regard of Mandela is not motivated by Political Correctness, and a deep fear of punishment if they don't conform with the majority media and shameless politicians. I like to think of most of you as ones who want to pursue truth. And only truth shall set us free, NOT human weaknesses and fear.



  • 一只被砸烂的青蛙 -- 中国人的语言与无哲学
    A Smashed Frog - Chinese Understanding of Truth Hampered by Their Character-based, Syllabic Language


    陈凯一语 Kai Chen's Words:

    中文是一个情感与艺术语言,是决不能用于逻辑与理性的交流的。 中文本身的无能造成了中国人病态的暴力语言。

    用单音节象形文字的中文去追求真理有如用一把锤子去解剖一只青蛙。 你决得不到青蛙的生理知识。 你所得到的只是一只被砸烂的青蛙。 中国人的历史只是一个用尽心思相互杀戳争夺用那把锤子的历史。 他们所得到的也只能是一堆被砸烂的青蛙。

    黎鸣先生只表述了他对中国人不求真理,没有哲学的恼怒。 但他没有挖出全部的病根。 中文作为工具不光无能,它也是消灭人类道德的病毒的传播体。 一个对真理绝缘的文化是绝不能建立健康的道德价值的。

    Chinese language is an art to express emotions only. It can never be used to express ideas and thoughts with logic. As a result of Chinese language's inability, defects and inadequacy, it is very common for a "Chinese" to resort to violent language in debate and discussion.

    Using the Chinese character-based, syllabic language to pursue knowledge and truth is like using a hammer to dissect a frog. In the end, you will not acquire any knowledge about the frog's physiology. Instead, you will only get a smashed frog. China's history can be described as a history of killing each other to grab that hammer. What the Chinese get in the end is never knowledge and truth of anything, but a pile of smashed frogs.

    I can understand Mr. Liming's frustration about the Chinese tendency of never pursuing truth and knowledge, of never having anything close to a philosophical discourse. But he fails to dig up all the root causes of such a tendency. Chinese language as a tool is not only impotent in discovering truth, it is a media to spread viruses to contaminate human morality, for a language so impotent to pursue knowledge and truth is a language bound to breed distorted and perverted versions of reality.


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    Dear Visitors:

    I will paste Mr. Liming's article 中国人为什么是个永远都在自我毁弃哲学的民族?here for you to read.

    Mr. Liming has yet to grasp the root cause of China' anti-intellect culture -- the Chinese character-based syllabic language itself.

    The anti-intellect intellectuals in China have been bred from the very beginning, since the time they pick up a brush to mimic their ancestors' calligraphy of the Chinese syllabic characters, to castrate themselves of their own capacity of any real intellectual debate and discourse. They are impotent facing unknown, facing nature, facing truth and knowledge. They are rendered helpless by their own ancestors' invention -- the Chinese character-based, syllabic language. If you have not grasped this crucial cause of China's problems and its perpetual despotism and tyranny, you are still trapped.

    So think again and think hard. You may gradually get it.

    Best. Kai Chen 陈凯

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    Reprint of Liming's Article

    2007年12月2日 星期日

    黎鸣:中国人为什么是个永远都在自我毁弃哲学的民族?

    中国人是个没有哲学的民族。为什么?因为中国人永远,甚至时时刻刻,都在毁弃自己人中有可能涌现出来的哲学,正如我在过去的一篇文章中所谈到的,在漫长的历史中,中国人也永远都在灭绝自己人中时时刻刻都有可能涌现出来(领悟哲学——真理)的天才。这是真实,这是中国人两千多年来历史中的千真万确的真实。

    什么是哲学?

    哲学就是爱智慧之学,也即言智慧、行智慧、思智慧之学。

    然而,什么又是智慧呢?

    智慧就是由信真理、知真实、爱真诚这三个环节组成的永远不可分的人类精神的三位一体,而其中最关键的,且首当其冲的更又是“信真理”,以及永远不断地坚持追求和发现更新的真理。这是因为,只有信仰可靠的真理,才能真正有效地知(判断)真实,以及更进一步直觉地爱(体认、体察、体现)真诚。又因为,只有永远不断地坚持发现更新的真理,才能更有效地推进、增长、深化“知真实”所获得的真知识,才能更充分、更全面地直觉体察到“爱真诚”对于人类的文明来说将有多么重要和多么美好。更因为,只有如此“三位一体”不断地循环往复,人类的智慧,更进一步全人类的文明,才可能真正获得有效的进化、发展和提高。

    从上所述显然可知,什么是哲学?哲学实质上就是追求、发现、信仰真理之学。舍去真理,将不可能有哲学。这是铁板钉钉,毫无疑义的结论。说得更简明一点,哲学就是求真理之学,或者用前面“爱智慧”的方式来说,哲学就是言真理、行真理、思真理之学。换言之,无真理,则根本就不可能有哲学。

    按照我前面文章的结论,中国人其实是个永远无视真理的民族,所以顺理成章,中国人也是个永远无(视)哲学的民族。而事实上,也确确实实是如此。用我的文章标题来说,即:中国人是个永远都在自我毁弃哲学的民族。

    下面,我们就从“自我毁弃哲学”这一点来认真回顾一下中国的思想史,看看是不是如此。

    回到远古。中华民族的祖先并不是不追求真理的祖先。显然的一点,中国人的远祖伏羲画卦,其目的即在追求真理,而并不是用来算命。为什么?大家知道,伏羲是首先发明网罟,以用来捕鱼的发明家,而他也因此而发明了阴阳、三行、六度(“易大象”)的抽象的网状逻辑,这也是顺理成章的事情。网状物可以捕鱼,而网状逻辑则可以捕获抽象的“真理”。令我们不能不感到惊异的是,阴阳、三行、六度(“易大象”)的网状逻辑,的确是我们今天才刚刚认识到的语言、数学、思维的全逻辑的最佳表现形式,它们之间的神奇的巧合,的确是值得我们今天中华民族的子孙为我们伟大的祖先极感自豪的事情。关于这种网状逻辑形态的全逻辑(“易大象”),我以后会有专著进行全面的论述。

    可是这种伟大的思维逻辑,到了周文王、周公的手里,却变成了完全用来算命的工具——《周易》。从“易大象”到《周易》,这是在中国人的历史上发生的第一次最严重地自我毁弃哲学的事件。当周文王、周公急功近利地为伏羲的卦画进行具象的命名(乾坤震巽坎离艮兑等等),并把他们的最粗鄙的愿望(祷告辞)也都相应地变成了卦辞、爻辞之时,这就好有一比,伏羲发明的网状逻辑中的每一个网眼,都被周文王、周公们利用日常运用的语言垃圾给封堵死了。请大家想想,堵死了网眼的渔网能够捕鱼吗?不能。同理,堵死了“网眼”的网状逻辑也不再是能够“捕获”真理的真逻辑了,而只能是一堆废物。而《周易》,再加上儒家的所谓《易传》,其实就是不折不扣的一堆文字废物。正是因此,追求真理的伏羲,最后变成了无视真理的周文王、周公;相应地,创造了伟大的哲学逻辑的伏羲,最后也显然变成了完全无视和毁弃哲学逻辑的周文王、周公。这时的周文王、周公,作为人,他们实际上已经不自觉地完全丧失了追求真理的人类灵性的“自我”,而完全变成了盲目撞运气而向“天命”,其实是向“宿命”乞讨的乞儿,而且更糟糕的是,他们把自己的最粗鄙的生活经验、愿望(他们关于卦辞爻辞的祷告的祷辞),竟然变成了严重地影响了后来两三千年之中的中华民族所有后人的垃圾读物——《周易》,而使之陷入了让他们永远都只能极其狭隘地认识世界的 “深井”,而中华民族的后人,在后来的两千多年中,几乎真就全都变成了在这座深井之中坐井观天的“井底之蛙”,甚至直到今天,还难以爬出这座“井”来。而中华民族也只有自认倒霉,不能不变成了一个愈来愈逐渐向愚昧的深渊苦难地爬行的民族。然而,让《周易》直接变成中国人两千多年来的“垃圾读物”,甚至儿童发蒙“教材”的人,也即直接造成中国人从此对世界的认识深深地陷入了这座极其狭隘的坐井观天的“深井”中的人,他究竟是谁呢?我告诉大家,他正是中国人直到现在还在迷信、崇拜的“圣人”——孔子。尽管实际上,对于人类的智慧和文明来说,孔子确确实实只是一个满怀乡愿的十足的庸人,一根祸害中华民族文明的巨大的搅屎棍,一条实实在在长期以来糊弄中华文明的“丧家犬”。他一味只知道要尊崇君君臣臣等级制度的“周礼”,却根本就不知道人类最需要的本应是认识世界的真理。他或许本不是一个最坏最坏的人,但他的确为中华民族做了最坏最坏的事情;由于历代极权专制统治者对他和他的儒家的情有独钟的选择,从而他个人的愚昧和乡愿式的昏聩,事实上已经让中华民族整整愚昧、落后、遭罪了两千多年,也即让中华民族的文明和智慧整整停滞发展了两千多年。说白了,是让中华民族两千多年中所有曾经生活过的人们几乎全都毫无价值地也即不知真理为何物地白活了一生。关于孔子,有人说他和他的儒家只不过是历史的替罪羊(参见从台湾来的付佩荣先生)。这种说法本身即是盲目尊孔者的极其无知之谈,然而这种说法并不能丝毫减轻孔子及其儒家本身对于中华民族的严重的历史罪责。我后面还将继续讨论下去,直到中华民族子子孙孙中的绝大多数人能够真正从深深愚昧的历史重负之中完全清醒过来为止。

    可以看到,孔子把完全是文字垃圾的《周易》(当然也还得加上历代极权专制统治者及其御用文人们不断的推波助澜),竟然规定为两千多年来中华民族子子孙孙最重要的发蒙“教材”——《六经》之首,这是中国历史中的一个何等严重的“文化”误导,更甚至是一个何等严重的文化的犯罪?它不仅仅只是坚持周文王、周公们的“自我毁弃哲学”的行为,而且还更把这种“自我毁弃哲学”的行为当成了中国人从此以后当然的历史传统,而要求后人重重复复、永永远远地继承下去,乃至一直到了今天,类似的行为还在当然地继续发生。而作为文字垃圾的《周易》,至今仍被许多人捧上了天,两千多年来多少人为它皓首穷经,终生糊涂而一无所获。实际上,中国人根本就已经丧失了对它进行任何真理性判断的能力。正是因此,《周易》永远是“伟大的”《周易》,它事实上已经变成了中国人永远的精神鸦片。读(毒)了还要读(毒),吸了还要吸,永远读(毒),永远吸,终于造成了中国人简直就是一个永远坚守痼疾、永远愚顽不化的民族,这真是中华民族的一个多么巨大的文化历史的悲剧!

    纵观全部中国的思想史,尤其在汉武帝决定“独尊儒术”之后的中国思想史,没有受到过孔子及其儒家的精神毒害的人几乎根本就不存在。正是因此,即使近现代最著名的中国学人,例如胡适、冯友兰、梁漱溟等等,更不要说其他研究“中国哲学”的人们,仍然全都视孔子为中国古代最重要乃至最伟大的“哲人”之一,而儒学更是成了中国最大的“哲学”流派。这真是一个多么巨大而尖锐的文明的自我嘲讽?既荒谬之极,更荒诞之极。孔子及其儒家何来“哲学”,更如何还成为了“哲人”?难道天下竟有如此无视真理,甚至如此反对和毁弃真理的哲学和哲人么?

    如果真要在中国古代寻找“哲人”,除了最早的伏羲,也就只有老子和墨子等极少数的几位了,然而就是这极少数的几位,也全都遭到了根本性的毁弃,例如老子,就被儒家文人们改造得面目全非,老子的著作《道德经》遭到了根本性的曲解,“常道”被颠倒成了“非常道”,从而老子也被强行变成了无视真理、毁弃哲学的儒家的同谋了。至于墨子,由于儒家的遮蔽,整整被中国人遗忘了两千多年,直到清末才被人重新提起。总之,他们的哲学全都被儒家的文人们毁弃了。而在秦汉之后的两千多年之中,由于孔子及其儒家的严重的遮蔽和歪曲,更加上历代极权专制统治者的极端残酷的迫害,中国的“哲人”简直就完全绝迹了,而惟一只剩下了永远不断自我毁弃哲学的无哲学、无真理的完全是一片黑暗的中国无思想史。

    “自我毁弃哲学”的现象,在近半个多世纪的中国也同样在发生。近半个多世纪以来,我们中国虽然没有自己的哲学,但也同样拒绝外来真正的哲学。我可以负责任地说,近半个多世纪以来在中国学校里所宣讲的哲学并不是真正重要的哲学,而只是外来哲学中的并不十分重要的枝枝叶叶,而且是经过了一些无知者大量歪曲和篡改的虚假的枝枝叶叶。

    什么是近现代真正重要的哲学?我认为近现代真正重要的哲学只能是真正孕育了西方近现代人类科学技术精神和民主自由精神的西方近现代哲学,而西方近现代哲学的核心逻辑是形式逻辑(包括数理逻辑),至于其他的逻辑,例如辩证逻辑、现象学逻辑等等,全都只能是思维方法上的极其有限的补充或变种,它们根本就不可能单独有效地运用,而最多也只能是在形式逻辑的基础上起一点点辅助性的作用。令人不解的是,在中国的学校只能讲从苏俄舶来的唯物辩证法哲学,即经过了前苏联的一些显然是哲学偏见者所编篡的所谓《马克思列宁主义哲学》,而根本就不讲与形式逻辑密切相关并真正孕育了近现代人类科学、民主、自由精神的近现代西方哲学;而且更有害的是,把形式逻辑颠倒地宣判为“孤立、静止、片面”的“错误”的甚至“反动”的“形而上学”。曾经有一个故事。50年代初著名的中央党校哲学大教授艾思奇先生到清华大学讲学,批判形式逻辑的“错误”,甚至“反动”。而主持这次演讲会的清华大学哲学教授却是从西方留学归来的形式逻辑方面的专家金岳霖先生。可以想象金先生当时的尴尬。金先生在结束语中幽默地,但也是不得已而自我解嘲地说:“艾思奇同志今天的报告也还是符合形式逻辑的。”

    现在回顾起来,从爱智慧的意义上看,近半个多世纪以来中国人对形式逻辑的批判和拒绝是极其错误甚至极其反动的,实质上是批判和拒绝人类思维的最基本的规律和真理,事实上也同样是在“自我毁弃哲学”。因为真正说起来,直至今天,也只有形式逻辑真正反映了人类最基本的思维规律,也即思维的真理;而拒绝了形式逻辑规律和真理的辩证逻辑,最后几乎全都变成了人们为自身错误甚至邪恶进行狡辩的诡辩逻辑和大讲废话的套话逻辑。这种“诡辩”和“套话”的例子,在中国近半个多世纪的历史中简直俯拾皆是,甚至现在还在不断地继续发生。

    (请网友直接进入我个人的网页:www.liming1944.com,谢ฃ...。);

    張貼者: NCN Editor 位於 12/02/2007 08:50:00 下午 標籤: 中国文化, 思想理论

  • Laurence Almand • an hour ago
    What a truthful and courageous young man! There should be more people like him writing essays and speaking out in public! People would see Communism/Socialism for the sham that it actually is.
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    Thomas Smallwood • 2 hours ago
    I believe it was Lenin that said, sometime before the Russian revolution, that (paraphrased) National healthcare is the keystone in the archway of socialism.
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    lilolady • 21 hours ago
    A troll by the moniker of daves has completely high jacked this site by sucking in naive people who think he deserves answering. Please, NEVER feed a troll. This article is worthy of continuing conversation and passing on to interested parties.
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    Isabella • 21 hours ago
    I believe we can learn from Chen the value of what we have.
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    Fred_K • a day ago
    It takes someone who has lived under tyranny to truly appreciate freedom. I hope he can wake up the pacified minions here in the US.
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    Edward Ebersole Fred_K • 10 hours ago
    He opened my eyes so far like Richard Wurmbrand did in Tortured for Christ.
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    lilolady Fred_K • 21 hours ago
    We need him here in Southern California. I am glad to see that he is speaking to a local Patriot Group. We know one another by the truth that we speak. We don't need no stinkin' phone banks! Or Leaders each vying for the recognition and the funding. I would vote for this young man in a heartbeat. He speaks truth.
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    Isabella • a day ago
    Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II can, ironically, only talk about relative freedom. De Touqueville took a step farther to caution us:

    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. - Alexis de Tocqueville, author of Democracy in America
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    edgineer • a day ago
    We are harboring the seeds of our own destruction when we permit the CPUSA (Google it) and Marxist professors and politicians to openly do everything they can to destroy our economy and impose socialism.
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    Laurence Almand edgineer • an hour ago
    Read the good book BRAINWASHED to find out how your college students are being programmed by Socialist professors. Also Google my essay THE SHEEPLE'S CREED for a truthful comment.
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    JEANNIEMAC2 • a day ago
    "Who today is talking like that?" Orly Taitz has been fighting for over five years through the courts of corrupt/frightened judges to have the truth about Obama come out to the public. Check out her website http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
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    John JEANNIEMAC2 • a day ago
    Unfortunately, I think the courts are useless. The voting booth is becoming irrelevant. Where do we go from here?
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    Don't Even Try It! John • 21 hours ago
    Man your guns...Stand by to fire!
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    Michael Skok • a day ago
    That's an interesting question: "If America becomes like China, where are the freedom-loving people to go? The moon?" It looks like we're heading towards FEMA shelters and then to one of the mass graves Obama has waiting for us. Cherish these days of prosperity and freedom because there aren't going to be very many left.
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    Laurence Almand Michael Skok • an hour ago
    If the stupid voters elect goons like Obummer, they will get what they deserve.
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    jb80538 • a day ago
    EVERYBODY needs to read this one. WAKE UP PEOPLE!
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    soldiermom11 • a day ago
    Yes. What a blessing. If only all the lame stream media would publish his words.
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    lilolady soldiermom11 • 21 hours ago
    Pass it along, mom11. I certainly have. Do not rely upon anyone else, but yourself.
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    kalli • a day ago
    What a blessing to have Kai Chen give testimony to what is happening in this nation. There were several others who'd immigrated to the US that came forth before the 2008 election to warn us not to vote for this man. But, the stiff-necked people saw only the historical factor in electing one with black skin. The nation was duped by this deceiver with the help of the media and his handlers who were complicit in hiding his past and ineligibility. We are now reaping what was sowed.
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    Ginger • a day ago
    I wish Americans would wake up to the fact that that is exactly what o and "his"administration is trying so hard to do..not a "theory" but fact.
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    disqus_C6fGXmCFNc • a day ago
    I hope people will listen to this gentleman, he has lived through this crap obama is pulling. Wake up Wake up
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    ICOYAR • 2 days ago
    Karl Marx is laughing in Hell for what is happening in the United States. The goal of socialism is to impoverish everybody, to make them easier to kill.
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    Laurence Almand ICOYAR • an hour ago
    And you can be sure that Lenin, Stalin, and Mao are also gloating over China.
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    iagozdi212 • 2 days ago
    My Uncle Declan just got Fiat 500 C Abarth by working part
    time off of a macbook air... Look At This w­w­w.B­I­G­29.c­o­m
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    John OMalia iagozdi212 • 18 hours ago
    Get off this site idiot, I repeat from another wise person.
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    NASA iagozdi212 • 2 days ago
    WOW. Neat. You married? Like to ride on a Harley? Let's talk....soon.

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    disqus_C6fGXmCFNc NASA • a day ago
    Get off this site idiot!
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    NASA • 2 days ago
    He is forecasting what the US is going to be like 5-10 years from now, but with one difference. We're adding all sorts of legalized perverted behavior to the mix.
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    Nixys • 2 days ago
    Only spoiled ignorant Westerners yearn for socialism.
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    Wootsauce • 2 days ago
    This article needs to be spread far and wide! It's nice to hear the lessons from someone who lived it.
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    Truth goes 100 MPH Wootsauce • 20 hours ago
    One ugly dude below. Want a second opinion? Daves is stupid too!
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    daves Wootsauce • a day ago
    Ask the people of Alaska if socialism is evil. I think they like getting their share of the oil company profits.
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    Don't Even Try It! daves • 21 hours ago
    Idiots never learn! We just can't fix "STUPID" although we try really hard. I'm sorry that you will never be any better person, no smarter and no richer than your unfortunate neighbors. That is what you get and how you will live under a socialistic government. You will have NO ability to ever rise above the "average". SUCKER!!
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    Isabella daves • a day ago
    “Democracy extends the sphere of individual freedom, socialism restricts it. Democracy attaches all possible value to each man; socialism makes each man a mere agent, a mere number. Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.”
    ― Alexis de Tocqueville
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    podunk1 daves • a day ago
    Alaska isn't Californication, Detroit, Chicago, Watts, or just about any progressive democrat controlled hell hole. Detroit looks like 1945 Hiroshima. The mayor is in Jail - so is Bloggo.

    Alaska profits by productively using their resources. Californica is broke, overrun by criminals, addicts, parasites and people walking around in left hand circles because they can't do anything right.. Nothing is left because they, like locusts, consume instead of produce, save, and invest in wealth producing investment.
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    daves podunk1 • 5 hours ago
    Yep, and Alaska has many socialist programs while California and Michigan do not. More evidence that socialism is not evil
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    podunk1 daves • 5 hours ago
    Sounds good - Looking forward to near zero taxes, $1/gallon gas when Obama turns the drillers loose & tells the muslims to kiss butt... no need for BOcare, global warmers, the epa, osha, ID theft, illegal aliens, school unions &subsidies, BO's czars, bankrupt pensions... endless prosperity & freedom! What are you going to do with Detroit? Dig it up & bury in Chicago, or move it to Watts & bulldoze both into the Pacific. "Pacific" a final gesture of peace, tranquility, reverence... like a funeral.
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    speedle24 daves • a day ago
    You have no clue what you are talking about daves - a simple minded comment on a simple minded way of viewing an economic equation.
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    daves speedle24 • a day ago
    I think I do have a clue, care to debate?

    Please give me a definition of socialism along with some examples.
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    buckman21 daves • a day ago
    so·cial·ism

    noun \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\

    : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.

    Here is an example. With this new ACA, we are no longer able to exist or live, without the government being involved. By that I mean we are now required by law, whether we like it or not, to purchase health insurance. Or we get fined. This isn't like car insurance, because not everyone owns a car, therefore not everyone has to legally pay insurance for that. This isn't even a choice.

    Another would be, that the Obama regime is going after the "loop hole" that was given to the Republicans during the crafting of the ACA called Self-Insurance. What this is, is businesses don't go through an insurance company for medical expenses, but rather pay for their workers costs out of their own money. Workers still have co-pays, deductibles etc, which differs from job to job. They do hire insurance companies to manage these costs, but no longer have a middle man to go through. The white house hates this. Because those businesses that do this are exempt from the taxes and regulations of the ACA. So they are trying hard to close this loophole. Because they want full control. Socialism.

    Another can be cronie Capitalism. The government giving special privileges and bailouts to certain companies but not others. Therefore intervening in something they shouldn't be meddling. It's not exactly pure government control, but its the next closest thing. In the words of Ron Swanson: "Capitalism: Gods way of determining who is smart, and who is poor." That is what should be done, good businesses thrive, bad ones die off and new ones take its place if new and innovative ideas come forth.
    see more
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    daves buckman21 • 4 hours ago
    Thank you for your reply. I don't think your examples match the definition you gave. In neither of the cases does the government own the insurance industry. These are still private companies that will profit from their business.
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    buckman21 daves • 4 hours ago
    So according to you, nothing the government does unless it is truly owned by the goverment, isn't socialism? Controlling what they can and can't do is. And controlling what we as people do with our own lives, even just plain existing, that's not socialism? I guess we should just call it tyranny instead.
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    John OMalia buckman21 • 18 hours ago
    You're wasting your time with a troll.
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    speedle24 daves • a day ago
    I'll make it simple for you. Alaska is not a socialist state. The state does not own the oil companies. There is nothing left to discuss.
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    daves speedle24 • a day ago
    Alaska is the only state with a state owned rail system.
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    jrcooke daves • 19 hours ago
    LOL!! All 13 1/2 miles of it! However long it truly is, when I lived in Alaska, it only ran between Anchorage and Fairbanks! The next day it would run the opposite direction. Great service for 'the masses'!
    The permafrost prevents development of a real world transportation infrastructure between cities, towns and villages. To get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time you have to fly - which is still somewhat dangerous in that state. "State owned rail system" indeed! LOL!
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    raffaelecafagna daves • a day ago
    Do what I tell you , don`t do what I do .
    Please Inform yourself .
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    daves raffaelecafagna • a day ago
    What dictionary did you get that from?
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    raffaelecafagna daves • a day ago
    Did you read the article here ?????????????????????????????????????????????
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    daves raffaelecafagna • a day ago −
    Yes, are you saying that the article defines socialism? I must have missed that. Which part?

  • Laurence Almand • an hour ago
    What a truthful and courageous young man! There should be more people like him writing essays and speaking out in public! People would see Communism/Socialism for the sham that it actually is.
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    Thomas Smallwood • 2 hours ago
    I believe it was Lenin that said, sometime before the Russian revolution, that (paraphrased) National healthcare is the keystone in the archway of socialism.
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    lilolady • 21 hours ago
    A troll by the moniker of daves has completely high jacked this site by sucking in naive people who think he deserves answering. Please, NEVER feed a troll. This article is worthy of continuing conversation and passing on to interested parties.
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    Isabella • 21 hours ago
    I believe we can learn from Chen the value of what we have.
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    Fred_K • a day ago
    It takes someone who has lived under tyranny to truly appreciate freedom. I hope he can wake up the pacified minions here in the US.
    18 •Reply•Share ›

    Edward Ebersole Fred_K • 10 hours ago
    He opened my eyes so far like Richard Wurmbrand did in Tortured for Christ.
    2 •Reply•Share ›

    lilolady Fred_K • 21 hours ago
    We need him here in Southern California. I am glad to see that he is speaking to a local Patriot Group. We know one another by the truth that we speak. We don't need no stinkin' phone banks! Or Leaders each vying for the recognition and the funding. I would vote for this young man in a heartbeat. He speaks truth.
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    Isabella • a day ago
    Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II can, ironically, only talk about relative freedom. De Touqueville took a step farther to caution us:

    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. - Alexis de Tocqueville, author of Democracy in America
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    edgineer • a day ago
    We are harboring the seeds of our own destruction when we permit the CPUSA (Google it) and Marxist professors and politicians to openly do everything they can to destroy our economy and impose socialism.
    7 •Reply•Share ›

    Laurence Almand edgineer • an hour ago
    Read the good book BRAINWASHED to find out how your college students are being programmed by Socialist professors. Also Google my essay THE SHEEPLE'S CREED for a truthful comment.
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    JEANNIEMAC2 • a day ago
    "Who today is talking like that?" Orly Taitz has been fighting for over five years through the courts of corrupt/frightened judges to have the truth about Obama come out to the public. Check out her website http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
    7 •Reply•Share ›

    John JEANNIEMAC2 • a day ago
    Unfortunately, I think the courts are useless. The voting booth is becoming irrelevant. Where do we go from here?
    7 •Reply•Share ›

    Don't Even Try It! John • 21 hours ago
    Man your guns...Stand by to fire!
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    Michael Skok • a day ago
    That's an interesting question: "If America becomes like China, where are the freedom-loving people to go? The moon?" It looks like we're heading towards FEMA shelters and then to one of the mass graves Obama has waiting for us. Cherish these days of prosperity and freedom because there aren't going to be very many left.
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    Laurence Almand Michael Skok • an hour ago
    If the stupid voters elect goons like Obummer, they will get what they deserve.
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    jb80538 • a day ago
    EVERYBODY needs to read this one. WAKE UP PEOPLE!
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    soldiermom11 • a day ago
    Yes. What a blessing. If only all the lame stream media would publish his words.
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    lilolady soldiermom11 • 21 hours ago
    Pass it along, mom11. I certainly have. Do not rely upon anyone else, but yourself.
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    kalli • a day ago
    What a blessing to have Kai Chen give testimony to what is happening in this nation. There were several others who'd immigrated to the US that came forth before the 2008 election to warn us not to vote for this man. But, the stiff-necked people saw only the historical factor in electing one with black skin. The nation was duped by this deceiver with the help of the media and his handlers who were complicit in hiding his past and ineligibility. We are now reaping what was sowed.
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    Ginger • a day ago
    I wish Americans would wake up to the fact that that is exactly what o and "his"administration is trying so hard to do..not a "theory" but fact.
    18 •Reply•Share ›

    disqus_C6fGXmCFNc • a day ago
    I hope people will listen to this gentleman, he has lived through this crap obama is pulling. Wake up Wake up
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    ICOYAR • 2 days ago
    Karl Marx is laughing in Hell for what is happening in the United States. The goal of socialism is to impoverish everybody, to make them easier to kill.
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    Laurence Almand ICOYAR • an hour ago
    And you can be sure that Lenin, Stalin, and Mao are also gloating over China.
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    iagozdi212 • 2 days ago
    My Uncle Declan just got Fiat 500 C Abarth by working part
    time off of a macbook air... Look At This w­w­w.B­I­G­29.c­o­m
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    John OMalia iagozdi212 • 18 hours ago
    Get off this site idiot, I repeat from another wise person.
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    NASA iagozdi212 • 2 days ago
    WOW. Neat. You married? Like to ride on a Harley? Let's talk....soon.

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    disqus_C6fGXmCFNc NASA • a day ago
    Get off this site idiot!
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    NASA • 2 days ago
    He is forecasting what the US is going to be like 5-10 years from now, but with one difference. We're adding all sorts of legalized perverted behavior to the mix.
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    Nixys • 2 days ago
    Only spoiled ignorant Westerners yearn for socialism.
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    Wootsauce • 2 days ago
    This article needs to be spread far and wide! It's nice to hear the lessons from someone who lived it.
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    Truth goes 100 MPH Wootsauce • 20 hours ago
    One ugly dude below. Want a second opinion? Daves is stupid too!
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    daves Wootsauce • a day ago
    Ask the people of Alaska if socialism is evil. I think they like getting their share of the oil company profits.
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    Don't Even Try It! daves • 21 hours ago
    Idiots never learn! We just can't fix "STUPID" although we try really hard. I'm sorry that you will never be any better person, no smarter and no richer than your unfortunate neighbors. That is what you get and how you will live under a socialistic government. You will have NO ability to ever rise above the "average". SUCKER!!
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    Isabella daves • a day ago
    “Democracy extends the sphere of individual freedom, socialism restricts it. Democracy attaches all possible value to each man; socialism makes each man a mere agent, a mere number. Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.”
    ― Alexis de Tocqueville
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    podunk1 daves • a day ago
    Alaska isn't Californication, Detroit, Chicago, Watts, or just about any progressive democrat controlled hell hole. Detroit looks like 1945 Hiroshima. The mayor is in Jail - so is Bloggo.

    Alaska profits by productively using their resources. Californica is broke, overrun by criminals, addicts, parasites and people walking around in left hand circles because they can't do anything right.. Nothing is left because they, like locusts, consume instead of produce, save, and invest in wealth producing investment.
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    daves podunk1 • 5 hours ago
    Yep, and Alaska has many socialist programs while California and Michigan do not. More evidence that socialism is not evil
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    podunk1 daves • 5 hours ago
    Sounds good - Looking forward to near zero taxes, $1/gallon gas when Obama turns the drillers loose & tells the muslims to kiss butt... no need for BOcare, global warmers, the epa, osha, ID theft, illegal aliens, school unions &subsidies, BO's czars, bankrupt pensions... endless prosperity & freedom! What are you going to do with Detroit? Dig it up & bury in Chicago, or move it to Watts & bulldoze both into the Pacific. "Pacific" a final gesture of peace, tranquility, reverence... like a funeral.
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    speedle24 daves • a day ago
    You have no clue what you are talking about daves - a simple minded comment on a simple minded way of viewing an economic equation.
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    daves speedle24 • a day ago
    I think I do have a clue, care to debate?

    Please give me a definition of socialism along with some examples.
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    buckman21 daves • a day ago
    so·cial·ism

    noun \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\

    : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.

    Here is an example. With this new ACA, we are no longer able to exist or live, without the government being involved. By that I mean we are now required by law, whether we like it or not, to purchase health insurance. Or we get fined. This isn't like car insurance, because not everyone owns a car, therefore not everyone has to legally pay insurance for that. This isn't even a choice.

    Another would be, that the Obama regime is going after the "loop hole" that was given to the Republicans during the crafting of the ACA called Self-Insurance. What this is, is businesses don't go through an insurance company for medical expenses, but rather pay for their workers costs out of their own money. Workers still have co-pays, deductibles etc, which differs from job to job. They do hire insurance companies to manage these costs, but no longer have a middle man to go through. The white house hates this. Because those businesses that do this are exempt from the taxes and regulations of the ACA. So they are trying hard to close this loophole. Because they want full control. Socialism.

    Another can be cronie Capitalism. The government giving special privileges and bailouts to certain companies but not others. Therefore intervening in something they shouldn't be meddling. It's not exactly pure government control, but its the next closest thing. In the words of Ron Swanson: "Capitalism: Gods way of determining who is smart, and who is poor." That is what should be done, good businesses thrive, bad ones die off and new ones take its place if new and innovative ideas come forth.
    see more
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    daves buckman21 • 4 hours ago
    Thank you for your reply. I don't think your examples match the definition you gave. In neither of the cases does the government own the insurance industry. These are still private companies that will profit from their business.
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    buckman21 daves • 4 hours ago
    So according to you, nothing the government does unless it is truly owned by the goverment, isn't socialism? Controlling what they can and can't do is. And controlling what we as people do with our own lives, even just plain existing, that's not socialism? I guess we should just call it tyranny instead.
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    John OMalia buckman21 • 18 hours ago
    You're wasting your time with a troll.
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    speedle24 daves • a day ago
    I'll make it simple for you. Alaska is not a socialist state. The state does not own the oil companies. There is nothing left to discuss.
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    daves speedle24 • a day ago
    Alaska is the only state with a state owned rail system.
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    jrcooke daves • 19 hours ago
    LOL!! All 13 1/2 miles of it! However long it truly is, when I lived in Alaska, it only ran between Anchorage and Fairbanks! The next day it would run the opposite direction. Great service for 'the masses'!
    The permafrost prevents development of a real world transportation infrastructure between cities, towns and villages. To get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time you have to fly - which is still somewhat dangerous in that state. "State owned rail system" indeed! LOL!
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    raffaelecafagna daves • a day ago
    Do what I tell you , don`t do what I do .
    Please Inform yourself .
    1 •Reply•Share ›

    daves raffaelecafagna • a day ago
    What dictionary did you get that from?
    •Reply•Share ›

    raffaelecafagna daves • a day ago
    Did you read the article here ?????????????????????????????????????????????
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    daves raffaelecafagna • a day ago −
    Yes, are you saying that the article defines socialism? I must have missed that. Which part?

  • Comments to my speech:

    lilolady • 16 hours ago
    A troll by the moniker of daves has completely high jacked this site by sucking in naive people who think he deserves answering. Please, NEVER feed a troll. This article is worthy of continuing conversation and passing on to interested parties.

    Isabella • 16 hours ago
    I believe we can learn from Chen the value of what we have.

    Fred_K • 17 hours ago
    It takes someone who has lived under tyranny to truly appreciate freedom. I hope he can wake up the pacified minions here in the US.

    Edward Ebersole Fred_K • 6 hours ago
    He opened my eyes so far like Richard Wurmbrand did in Tortured for Christ.

    lilolady Fred_K • 16 hours ago
    We need him here in Southern California. I am glad to see that he is speaking to a local Patriot Group. We know one another by the truth that we speak. We don't need no stinkin' phone banks! Or Leaders each vying for the recognition and the funding. I would vote for this young man in a heartbeat. He speaks truth.


    Isabella • 17 hours ago
    Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II can, ironically, only talk about relative freedom. De Touqueville took a step farther to caution us:

    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. - Alexis de Tocqueville, author of Democracy in America


    edgineer • 18 hours ago
    We are harboring the seeds of our own destruction when we permit the CPUSA (Google it) and Marxist professors and politicians to openly do everything they can to destroy our economy and impose socialism.


    JEANNIEMAC2 • 18 hours ago
    "Who today is talking like that?" Orly Taitz has been fighting for over five years through the courts of corrupt/frightened judges to have the truth about Obama come out to the public. Check out her website http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/


    John JEANNIEMAC2 • 18 hours ago
    Unfortunately, I think the courts are useless. The voting booth is becoming irrelevant. Where do we go from here?

    Don't Even Try It! John • 17 hours ago
    Man your guns...Stand by to fire!

    Michael Skok • 18 hours ago
    That's an interesting question: "If America becomes like China, where are the freedom-loving people to go? The moon?" It looks like we're heading towards FEMA shelters and then to one of the mass graves Obama has waiting for us. Cherish these days of prosperity and freedom because there aren't going to be very many left.

    jb80538 • 20 hours ago
    EVERYBODY needs to read this one. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

    soldiermom11 • 21 hours ago
    Yes. What a blessing. If only all the lame stream media would publish his words.

    lilolady soldiermom11 • 16 hours ago
    Pass it along, mom11. I certainly have. Do not rely upon anyone else, but yourself.

    kalli • a day ago
    What a blessing to have Kai Chen give testimony to what is happening in this nation. There were several others who'd immigrated to the US that came forth before the 2008 election to warn us not to vote for this man. But, the stiff-necked people saw only the historical factor in electing one with black skin. The nation was duped by this deceiver with the help of the media and his handlers who were complicit in hiding his past and ineligibility. We are now reaping what was sowed.

    Ginger • a day ago
    I wish Americans would wake up to the fact that that is exactly what o and "his"administration is trying so hard to do..not a "theory" but fact.

    disqus_C6fGXmCFNc • a day ago
    I hope people will listen to this gentleman, he has lived through this crap obama is pulling. Wake up Wake up

    ICOYAR • 2 days ago
    Karl Marx is laughing in Hell for what is happening in the United States. The goal of socialism is to impoverish everybody, to make them easier to kill.

    iagozdi212 • 2 days ago
    My Uncle Declan just got Fiat 500 C Abarth by working part
    time off of a macbook air... Look At This w­w­w.B­I­G­29.c­o­m

    John OMalia iagozdi212 • 13 hours ago
    Get off this site idiot, I repeat from another wise person.

    NASA iagozdi212 • a day ago
    WOW. Neat. You married? Like to ride on a Harley? Let's talk....soon.

    disqus_C6fGXmCFNc NASA • a day ago
    Get off this site idiot!

    NASA • 2 days ago
    He is forecasting what the US is going to be like 5-10 years from now, but with one difference. We're adding all sorts of legalized perverted behavior to the mix.

    Nixys • 2 days ago
    Only spoiled ignorant Westerners yearn for socialism.

    Wootsauce • 2 days ago
    This article needs to be spread far and wide! It's nice to hear the lessons from someone who lived it.

    Truth goes 100 MPH Wootsauce • 16 hours ago
    One ugly dude below. Want a second opinion? Daves is stupid too!

    daves Wootsauce • 21 hours ago
    Ask the people of Alaska if socialism is evil. I think they like getting their share of the oil company profits.

    Don't Even Try It! daves • 17 hours ago
    Idiots never learn! We just can't fix "STUPID" although we try really hard. I'm sorry that you will never be any better person, no smarter and no richer than your unfortunate neighbors. That is what you get and how you will live under a socialistic government. You will have NO ability to ever rise above the "average". SUCKER!!

    Isabella daves • 17 hours ago
    “Democracy extends the sphere of individual freedom, socialism restricts it. Democracy attaches all possible value to each man; socialism makes each man a mere agent, a mere number. Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.”
    ― Alexis de Tocqueville

    podunk1 daves • 18 hours ago
    Alaska isn't Californication, Detroit, Chicago, Watts, or just about any progressive democrat controlled hell hole. Detroit looks like 1945 Hiroshima. The mayor is in Jail - so is Bloggo.

    Alaska profits by productively using their resources. Californica is broke, overrun by criminals, addicts, parasites and people walking around in left hand circles because they can't do anything right.. Nothing is left because they, like locusts, consume instead of produce, save, and invest in wealth producing investment.

    daves podunk1 • 31 minutes ago
    Yep, and Alaska has many socialist programs while California and Michigan do not. More evidence that socialism is not evil


    speedle24 daves • 21 hours ago
    You have no clue what you are talking about daves - a simple minded comment on a simple minded way of viewing an economic equation.


    daves speedle24 • 20 hours ago
    I think I do have a clue, care to debate?

    Please give me a definition of socialism along with some examples.

    buckman21 daves • 18 hours ago
    so·cial·ism

    noun \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\

    : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.

    Here is an example. With this new ACA, we are no longer able to exist or live, without the government being involved. By that I mean we are now required by law, whether we like it or not, to purchase health insurance. Or we get fined. This isn't like car insurance, because not everyone owns a car, therefore not everyone has to legally pay insurance for that. This isn't even a choice.

    Another would be, that the Obama regime is going after the "loop hole" that was given to the Republicans during the crafting of the ACA called Self-Insurance. What this is, is businesses don't go through an insurance company for medical expenses, but rather pay for their workers costs out of their own money. Workers still have co-pays, deductibles etc, which differs from job to job. They do hire insurance companies to manage these costs, but no longer have a middle man to go through. The white house hates this. Because those businesses that do this are exempt from the taxes and regulations of the ACA. So they are trying hard to close this loophole. Because they want full control. Socialism.

    Another can be cronie Capitalism. The government giving special privileges and bailouts to certain companies but not others. Therefore intervening in something they shouldn't be meddling. It's not exactly pure government control, but its the next closest thing. In the words of Ron Swanson: "Capitalism: Gods way of determining who is smart, and who is poor." That is what should be done, good businesses thrive, bad ones die off and new ones take its place if new and innovative ideas come forth.
    see more

    John OMalia buckman21 • 13 hours ago
    You're wasting your time with a troll.


    speedle24 daves • 20 hours ago
    I'll make it simple for you. Alaska is not a socialist state. The state does not own the oil companies. There is nothing left to discuss.

    daves speedle24 • 18 hours ago
    Alaska is the only state with a state owned rail system.

    jrcooke daves • 14 hours ago
    LOL!! All 13 1/2 miles of it! However long it truly is, when I lived in Alaska, it only ran between Anchorage and Fairbanks! The next day it would run the opposite direction. Great service for 'the masses'!
    The permafrost prevents development of a real world transportation infrastructure between cities, towns and villages. To get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time you have to fly - which is still somewhat dangerous in that state. "State owned rail system" indeed! LOL!

    raffaelecafagna daves • 20 hours ago
    Do what I tell you , don`t do what I do .
    Please Inform yourself .

    daves raffaelecafagna • 20 hours ago
    What dictionary did you get that from?

    raffaelecafagna daves • 20 hours ago
    Did you read the article here ?????????????????????????????????????????????

    daves raffaelecafagna • 20 hours ago
    Yes, are you saying that the article defines socialism? I must have missed that. Which part?

    raffaelecafagna daves • 19 hours ago
    Yes indeed , Please Read it again

    daves raffaelecafagna • 19 hours ago
    Mr. Chen seems very confused. Obamacare is not government healthcare, it is a requirement to purchase PRIVATE health insurance. Just like what they have in Japan and Australia.

    jrcooke daves • 14 hours ago
    Daves, are you serious? The federal (ha!) government is requiring all citizens to buy this 'private' insurance. Then when you buy it and use it they will tax you for the various aspects and usages. If you don't buy it, the federal (ha!) government will fine you. I can see it now: "Your papers! Your papers, please! Ve haf ben vatching you! You can't prove you have bought health insurance like the dear leader requested."


    Don't Even Try It! daves • 16 hours ago
    Daves, go puke really quick before the KoolAid completely poisions your mind! Quick, now run along and play with the other children...and be nice because you are so much bigger than they are.


    John daves • 18 hours ago
    You are seriously brainwashed aren't you? We were told clearly that we could keep our insurance, but now that has been clearly shown as a...let me be charitable...misrepresentation. Aw heck, save keystrokes. It was a lie, People are losing their insurance and paying higher premiums with astronomical deductables because they are being forced into the government healthcare marketplace. How private do you think it is when the morons in DC are defining the terms and mandating the purchase>

    You drank too much Kool Aid.


    raffaelecafagna daves • 19 hours ago
    Daves go to the top of this page : Politics ,Economics Constitution ,etc, etc.
    click on :
    Health Care you will have all the answers needed .


    raffaelecafagna daves • 19 hours ago −
    it is Socialized medicine ; it is a requirement to purchase Government healthcare, not private , controlled by I.R.S. and if you refuse it you will be punished with a fine ; you have to give all your personal information's , bank account included , so they can take your money without your approval ; your doctor , your personal insurance is gone ; you will pay what the Gov . tells you . Sorry I can`t be here to explain 2750 pages of obamacare and 20.000 regulations at the price of 630 Million of taxpayers money ; and does not work ; a company from Canada is working on the website and wait for the repair price if they can fix it .

    daves raffaelecafagna • an hour ago
    Do you remember the long debates about including a public option in the obamacare law? Liberals lost that fight and no new government insurance was created. Obamacare requires us to buy PRIVATE insurance.

    If you cannot provide proof of insurance then the IRS will fine you. You do not have to provide your bank account and the government will not have access to it. These are very old rumors that have been debunked many times.

  • Comments to my speech:

    lilolady • 16 hours ago
    A troll by the moniker of daves has completely high jacked this site by sucking in naive people who think he deserves answering. Please, NEVER feed a troll. This article is worthy of continuing conversation and passing on to interested parties.

    Isabella • 16 hours ago
    I believe we can learn from Chen the value of what we have.

    Fred_K • 17 hours ago
    It takes someone who has lived under tyranny to truly appreciate freedom. I hope he can wake up the pacified minions here in the US.

    Edward Ebersole Fred_K • 6 hours ago
    He opened my eyes so far like Richard Wurmbrand did in Tortured for Christ.

    lilolady Fred_K • 16 hours ago
    We need him here in Southern California. I am glad to see that he is speaking to a local Patriot Group. We know one another by the truth that we speak. We don't need no stinkin' phone banks! Or Leaders each vying for the recognition and the funding. I would vote for this young man in a heartbeat. He speaks truth.


    Isabella • 17 hours ago
    Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II can, ironically, only talk about relative freedom. De Touqueville took a step farther to caution us:

    The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. - Alexis de Tocqueville, author of Democracy in America


    edgineer • 18 hours ago
    We are harboring the seeds of our own destruction when we permit the CPUSA (Google it) and Marxist professors and politicians to openly do everything they can to destroy our economy and impose socialism.


    JEANNIEMAC2 • 18 hours ago
    "Who today is talking like that?" Orly Taitz has been fighting for over five years through the courts of corrupt/frightened judges to have the truth about Obama come out to the public. Check out her website http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/


    John JEANNIEMAC2 • 18 hours ago
    Unfortunately, I think the courts are useless. The voting booth is becoming irrelevant. Where do we go from here?

    Don't Even Try It! John • 17 hours ago
    Man your guns...Stand by to fire!

    Michael Skok • 18 hours ago
    That's an interesting question: "If America becomes like China, where are the freedom-loving people to go? The moon?" It looks like we're heading towards FEMA shelters and then to one of the mass graves Obama has waiting for us. Cherish these days of prosperity and freedom because there aren't going to be very many left.

    jb80538 • 20 hours ago
    EVERYBODY needs to read this one. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

    soldiermom11 • 21 hours ago
    Yes. What a blessing. If only all the lame stream media would publish his words.

    lilolady soldiermom11 • 16 hours ago
    Pass it along, mom11. I certainly have. Do not rely upon anyone else, but yourself.

    kalli • a day ago
    What a blessing to have Kai Chen give testimony to what is happening in this nation. There were several others who'd immigrated to the US that came forth before the 2008 election to warn us not to vote for this man. But, the stiff-necked people saw only the historical factor in electing one with black skin. The nation was duped by this deceiver with the help of the media and his handlers who were complicit in hiding his past and ineligibility. We are now reaping what was sowed.

    Ginger • a day ago
    I wish Americans would wake up to the fact that that is exactly what o and "his"administration is trying so hard to do..not a "theory" but fact.

    disqus_C6fGXmCFNc • a day ago
    I hope people will listen to this gentleman, he has lived through this crap obama is pulling. Wake up Wake up

    ICOYAR • 2 days ago
    Karl Marx is laughing in Hell for what is happening in the United States. The goal of socialism is to impoverish everybody, to make them easier to kill.

    iagozdi212 • 2 days ago
    My Uncle Declan just got Fiat 500 C Abarth by working part
    time off of a macbook air... Look At This w­w­w.B­I­G­29.c­o­m

    John OMalia iagozdi212 • 13 hours ago
    Get off this site idiot, I repeat from another wise person.

    NASA iagozdi212 • a day ago
    WOW. Neat. You married? Like to ride on a Harley? Let's talk....soon.

    disqus_C6fGXmCFNc NASA • a day ago
    Get off this site idiot!

    NASA • 2 days ago
    He is forecasting what the US is going to be like 5-10 years from now, but with one difference. We're adding all sorts of legalized perverted behavior to the mix.

    Nixys • 2 days ago
    Only spoiled ignorant Westerners yearn for socialism.

    Wootsauce • 2 days ago
    This article needs to be spread far and wide! It's nice to hear the lessons from someone who lived it.

    Truth goes 100 MPH Wootsauce • 16 hours ago
    One ugly dude below. Want a second opinion? Daves is stupid too!

    daves Wootsauce • 21 hours ago
    Ask the people of Alaska if socialism is evil. I think they like getting their share of the oil company profits.

    Don't Even Try It! daves • 17 hours ago
    Idiots never learn! We just can't fix "STUPID" although we try really hard. I'm sorry that you will never be any better person, no smarter and no richer than your unfortunate neighbors. That is what you get and how you will live under a socialistic government. You will have NO ability to ever rise above the "average". SUCKER!!

    Isabella daves • 17 hours ago
    “Democracy extends the sphere of individual freedom, socialism restricts it. Democracy attaches all possible value to each man; socialism makes each man a mere agent, a mere number. Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.”
    ― Alexis de Tocqueville

    podunk1 daves • 18 hours ago
    Alaska isn't Californication, Detroit, Chicago, Watts, or just about any progressive democrat controlled hell hole. Detroit looks like 1945 Hiroshima. The mayor is in Jail - so is Bloggo.

    Alaska profits by productively using their resources. Californica is broke, overrun by criminals, addicts, parasites and people walking around in left hand circles because they can't do anything right.. Nothing is left because they, like locusts, consume instead of produce, save, and invest in wealth producing investment.

    daves podunk1 • 31 minutes ago
    Yep, and Alaska has many socialist programs while California and Michigan do not. More evidence that socialism is not evil


    speedle24 daves • 21 hours ago
    You have no clue what you are talking about daves - a simple minded comment on a simple minded way of viewing an economic equation.


    daves speedle24 • 20 hours ago
    I think I do have a clue, care to debate?

    Please give me a definition of socialism along with some examples.

    buckman21 daves • 18 hours ago
    so·cial·ism

    noun \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\

    : a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies

    : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.

    Here is an example. With this new ACA, we are no longer able to exist or live, without the government being involved. By that I mean we are now required by law, whether we like it or not, to purchase health insurance. Or we get fined. This isn't like car insurance, because not everyone owns a car, therefore not everyone has to legally pay insurance for that. This isn't even a choice.

    Another would be, that the Obama regime is going after the "loop hole" that was given to the Republicans during the crafting of the ACA called Self-Insurance. What this is, is businesses don't go through an insurance company for medical expenses, but rather pay for their workers costs out of their own money. Workers still have co-pays, deductibles etc, which differs from job to job. They do hire insurance companies to manage these costs, but no longer have a middle man to go through. The white house hates this. Because those businesses that do this are exempt from the taxes and regulations of the ACA. So they are trying hard to close this loophole. Because they want full control. Socialism.

    Another can be cronie Capitalism. The government giving special privileges and bailouts to certain companies but not others. Therefore intervening in something they shouldn't be meddling. It's not exactly pure government control, but its the next closest thing. In the words of Ron Swanson: "Capitalism: Gods way of determining who is smart, and who is poor." That is what should be done, good businesses thrive, bad ones die off and new ones take its place if new and innovative ideas come forth.
    see more

    John OMalia buckman21 • 13 hours ago
    You're wasting your time with a troll.


    speedle24 daves • 20 hours ago
    I'll make it simple for you. Alaska is not a socialist state. The state does not own the oil companies. There is nothing left to discuss.

    daves speedle24 • 18 hours ago
    Alaska is the only state with a state owned rail system.

    jrcooke daves • 14 hours ago
    LOL!! All 13 1/2 miles of it! However long it truly is, when I lived in Alaska, it only ran between Anchorage and Fairbanks! The next day it would run the opposite direction. Great service for 'the masses'!
    The permafrost prevents development of a real world transportation infrastructure between cities, towns and villages. To get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time you have to fly - which is still somewhat dangerous in that state. "State owned rail system" indeed! LOL!

    raffaelecafagna daves • 20 hours ago
    Do what I tell you , don`t do what I do .
    Please Inform yourself .

    daves raffaelecafagna • 20 hours ago
    What dictionary did you get that from?

    raffaelecafagna daves • 20 hours ago
    Did you read the article here ?????????????????????????????????????????????

    daves raffaelecafagna • 20 hours ago
    Yes, are you saying that the article defines socialism? I must have missed that. Which part?

    raffaelecafagna daves • 19 hours ago
    Yes indeed , Please Read it again

    daves raffaelecafagna • 19 hours ago
    Mr. Chen seems very confused. Obamacare is not government healthcare, it is a requirement to purchase PRIVATE health insurance. Just like what they have in Japan and Australia.

    jrcooke daves • 14 hours ago
    Daves, are you serious? The federal (ha!) government is requiring all citizens to buy this 'private' insurance. Then when you buy it and use it they will tax you for the various aspects and usages. If you don't buy it, the federal (ha!) government will fine you. I can see it now: "Your papers! Your papers, please! Ve haf ben vatching you! You can't prove you have bought health insurance like the dear leader requested."


    Don't Even Try It! daves • 16 hours ago
    Daves, go puke really quick before the KoolAid completely poisions your mind! Quick, now run along and play with the other children...and be nice because you are so much bigger than they are.


    John daves • 18 hours ago
    You are seriously brainwashed aren't you? We were told clearly that we could keep our insurance, but now that has been clearly shown as a...let me be charitable...misrepresentation. Aw heck, save keystrokes. It was a lie, People are losing their insurance and paying higher premiums with astronomical deductables because they are being forced into the government healthcare marketplace. How private do you think it is when the morons in DC are defining the terms and mandating the purchase>

    You drank too much Kool Aid.


    raffaelecafagna daves • 19 hours ago
    Daves go to the top of this page : Politics ,Economics Constitution ,etc, etc.
    click on :
    Health Care you will have all the answers needed .


    raffaelecafagna daves • 19 hours ago −
    it is Socialized medicine ; it is a requirement to purchase Government healthcare, not private , controlled by I.R.S. and if you refuse it you will be punished with a fine ; you have to give all your personal information's , bank account included , so they can take your money without your approval ; your doctor , your personal insurance is gone ; you will pay what the Gov . tells you . Sorry I can`t be here to explain 2750 pages of obamacare and 20.000 regulations at the price of 630 Million of taxpayers money ; and does not work ; a company from Canada is working on the website and wait for the repair price if they can fix it .

    daves raffaelecafagna • an hour ago
    Do you remember the long debates about including a public option in the obamacare law? Liberals lost that fight and no new government insurance was created. Obamacare requires us to buy PRIVATE insurance.

    If you cannot provide proof of insurance then the IRS will fine you. You do not have to provide your bank account and the government will not have access to it. These are very old rumors that have been debunked many times.

  • 陈凯茶党演讲/关于奥巴马,社会主义与医改
    Kai Chen Speech/Obamacare & Socialism


    Kai Chen Tea Party Speech on 11/9/2013

    To San Fernando Valley Patriots

    http://godfatherpolitics.com/13222/chine...essons-freedom/

    Chinese Athlete Shares Lessons in Freedom

    Posted on November 12, 2013
    by Tad Cronn Filed under 1st Amendment

    Los Angeles-based author Kai Chen (Author of "One in a Billion - Journey toward Freedom), who grew up in Communist China under Mao Tse-Tung, knows just how evil socialism is, and he is working hard to educate Americans before it's too late.

    "Government is about power," Chen said recently to a roomful of people ranging in age from 10 to their mid-90s. "The bigger the government, the bigger the lie. Total government, like in China, is a total lie.

    "The entire country is a lie. I don’t want that to happen here. If it does, if America becomes like China, where are the freedom-loving people to go? The moon?"


    The former Chinese state basketball player was speaking in Canoga Park, California, on the 24th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall to the members of the San Fernando Valley Patriots.

    He shared some memories of his youth during the Cultural Revolution, a time when the government was so strict, people couldn't even have a goldfish or flowers in their home. "That's bourgeois!" Chen said of the Communists' standard accusation.
    Because China does not have America's history of individual freedom, a culture of indifference has taken root. "People in China say who cares if somebody dies? People die by the millions," Chen said.

    The rise of socialism begins with changing the way people use language, the author said.

    For example, in China, the government talks about dealing with "the masses" and appealing to "the masses." That's not the talk of free people.

    "Ronald Reagan said don't use that language, 'masses,'" Chen said. "People are not masses; they're individuals."

    Chen considers Reagan to be one of three "mortal giants" from the 1980s, the other two being Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II. All of them, Chen said, spoke directly and plainly about freedom, unlike politicians today.

    "Socialism is evil. Communism is evil. Who today is talking like that?" Chen asked.

    Chen said there are three things socialists believe in:

    Government is God -- the idea that government can, or should, do everything and should be given loyalty because of it. "When you say, 'Government can do that,' you fall into their trap," Chen said.

    It's all a zero-sum game -- there's only so much to go around, so it has to be distributed "equally." "They pit women against men, blacks against whites," Chen said. "Everybody's gain is everybody's loss."

    Materialism -- everything is material, nothing is of a spiritual or higher nature. "They see a problem, they throw money at it," Chen said. "We are nothing of our own choice or God's creation. We are only creatures of our environment. That's the talk of the Left."

    Chen warned that Obamacare is not about health, it's about power. But that reality has been obscured by the doubletalk used by the government and media to describe the law.

    "People say, 'Oh, this rollout does not work,'" Chen said. "It's not supposed to work! It's one step to total control by the government!"

    According to the author, the real point of Obamacare is to gain control of and centralize your personal information.

    "You will become 'public people'," he warned.

    Chen related how, during the Cultural Revolution, Mao came up with the concept of "barefoot doctors" to take care of people in the countryside. The "doctors" were given a first aid bag, maybe some other supplies, and no training, then they were sent out into the provinces, where they would treat people in smaller towns and villages.

    Chen said his niece, a doctor who had recently finished training in the U.S., went to China to visit, and she was asked by a Chinese physician how many people she had operated on. She replied that she hadn't performed any operations on her own yet because she had just finished her training.

    According to Chen, "He said, 'I never had training. I operated on a thousand already.' That's public medicine."

    Under socialism, people put up with hardship's because they're told it's "equal," and they think someone else will have even more taken away.


    "You expect other people to be worse off than you," Chen said. "That's how you get transformed. That's how Obamacare will transform this country."

    Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/13222/chine.../#ixzz2kXON5jsj
    Read more at http://godfatherpolitics.com/13222/chine...IaZHQoIqXxSB.99

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    陈凯茶党演讲/关于奥巴马,社会主义与医改
    Kai Chen Speech/Obamacare & Socialism


    Kai Chen Tea Party Speech on 11/9/2013

    To San Fernando Valley Patriots

    http://godfatherpolitics.com/13222/chine...essons-freedom/

    Chinese Athlete Shares Lessons in Freedom

    Posted on November 12, 2013
    by Tad Cronn Filed under 1st Amendment

    Los Angeles-based author Kai Chen (Author of "One in a Billion - Journey toward Freedom), who grew up in Communist China under Mao Tse-Tung, knows just how evil socialism is, and he is working hard to educate Americans before it's too late.

    "Government is about power," Chen said recently to a roomful of people ranging in age from 10 to their mid-90s. "The bigger the government, the bigger the lie. Total government, like in China, is a total lie.

    "The entire country is a lie. I don’t want that to happen here. If it does, if America becomes like China, where are the freedom-loving people to go? The moon?"


    The former Chinese state basketball player was speaking in Canoga Park, California, on the 24th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall to the members of the San Fernando Valley Patriots.

    He shared some memories of his youth during the Cultural Revolution, a time when the government was so strict, people couldn't even have a goldfish or flowers in their home. "That's bourgeois!" Chen said of the Communists' standard accusation.
    Because China does not have America's history of individual freedom, a culture of indifference has taken root. "People in China say who cares if somebody dies? People die by the millions," Chen said.

    The rise of socialism begins with changing the way people use language, the author said.

    For example, in China, the government talks about dealing with "the masses" and appealing to "the masses." That's not the talk of free people.

    "Ronald Reagan said don't use that language, 'masses,'" Chen said. "People are not masses; they're individuals."

    Chen considers Reagan to be one of three "mortal giants" from the 1980s, the other two being Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II. All of them, Chen said, spoke directly and plainly about freedom, unlike politicians today.

    "Socialism is evil. Communism is evil. Who today is talking like that?" Chen asked.

    Chen said there are three things socialists believe in:

    Government is God -- the idea that government can, or should, do everything and should be given loyalty because of it. "When you say, 'Government can do that,' you fall into their trap," Chen said.

    It's all a zero-sum game -- there's only so much to go around, so it has to be distributed "equally." "They pit women against men, blacks against whites," Chen said. "Everybody's gain is everybody's loss."

    Materialism -- everything is material, nothing is of a spiritual or higher nature. "They see a problem, they throw money at it," Chen said. "We are nothing of our own choice or God's creation. We are only creatures of our environment. That's the talk of the Left."

    Chen warned that Obamacare is not about health, it's about power. But that reality has been obscured by the doubletalk used by the government and media to describe the law.

    "People say, 'Oh, this rollout does not work,'" Chen said. "It's not supposed to work! It's one step to total control by the government!"

    According to the author, the real point of Obamacare is to gain control of and centralize your personal information.

    "You will become 'public people'," he warned.

    Chen related how, during the Cultural Revolution, Mao came up with the concept of "barefoot doctors" to take care of people in the countryside. The "doctors" were given a first aid bag, maybe some other supplies, and no training, then they were sent out into the provinces, where they would treat people in smaller towns and villages.

    Chen said his niece, a doctor who had recently finished training in the U.S., went to China to visit, and she was asked by a Chinese physician how many people she had operated on. She replied that she hadn't performed any operations on her own yet because she had just finished her training.

    According to Chen, "He said, 'I never had training. I operated on a thousand already.' That's public medicine."

    Under socialism, people put up with hardship's because they're told it's "equal," and they think someone else will have even more taken away.


    "You expect other people to be worse off than you," Chen said. "That's how you get transformed. That's how Obamacare will transform this country."

    Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/13222/chine.../#ixzz2kXON5jsj
    Read more at http://godfatherpolitics.com/13222/chine...IaZHQoIqXxSB.99
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    Former Communist Athlete Shares Words of Freedom

    Written on Sunday, November 10, 2013 by Tad Cronn

    Author and former basketball player Kai Chen held up a dirty headband he found in Tiananmen Square. He translated the words on it into English: “Support the hunger strike, support equal dialogue.”

    The Tiananmen Square uprising in 1989 was an important moment for Chen, who grew up under Mao Tse Tung, perhaps the most accomplished murderer in human history.

    “A big reason that Tiananmen Square happened was during the 1980s, we have three mortal giants in the world: Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul,” Chen said this weekend in Canoga Park, California, on the 24th anniversary of the Berlin Wall falling.

    He was addressing the San Fernando Valley Patriots in a small but packed meeting room full of people ranging in age from about 10 to mid-90s.

    When Chen asked if there was anybody in the room who had lived in socialist countries, the answers came back: Hungary, Romania, China. One defector from the Democratic Party shouted, “Berkeley.”

    What united everyone in the room was that they all, like Chen, were well-educated (the youngest member of the audience publishes a locally known political newsletter) and passionate about defending freedom.

    Chen told his audience that he was born American, just unfortunately in communist China, by which he means that people are born free. As a young man, he was chosen because of his height to be on the official Chinese state basketball team. But when Communist Party officials realized he had family in Taiwan, they removed him from the team, saying they couldn’t trust him.

    Chen, 16 at the time, just wanted to play sports, so he looked for a regional team he could play for inside China. When his search took him too close to the border near Taiwan, the ever-present Communist observers arrested him. After some time in prison, he was released but was soon conscripted into the army.

    Eventually, he was able to get to the United States and graduated from UCLA in 1986.

    What made Reagan different from other presidents, particularly the current one, Chen said, is that Reagan was for the individual, not the government.

    “Every time Ronald Reagan stepped on the podium,” Chen said, “he talked about freedom. … When he went to the Soviet Union, Reagan said, ‘I want to meet the dissidents.’ …

    “Government itself doesn’t care about you. Government is about power. The bigger the government, the bigger the lie. Total government, like China, is a total lie.

    “The entire country is a lie. I don’t want that to happen here. If it does, if America becomes like China, where are the freedom-loving people to go? The moon?”

    Turning toward a group of college students, he added, “I feel a moral duty to tell you this.”

    Chen lamented the current state of American politics, which he said has been brought down by the language of the Left:

    “Socialism is evil, communism is evil. Who today is talking like that?”

    The language used by Reagan was so powerful, Chen said, that it continued to shape politics into the Clinton years.

    “Clinton had to say the era of big government is over,” Chen said. “Where does that come from? That’s Reagan. Today, vocabulary is from the Left. …

    “That’s why Romney lost, because you can’t compete with Obama in promising government is going to give you things.”

    Chen fears that the United States has made a mistake by accepting China as a full trading partner. By doing so, America is further compromising its principles and turning a blind eye to all the harm done in the name of communism.

    Chen shared a picture of Chinese currency, dominated by a picture of Mao Tse-Tung, who is responsible for scores of millions of deaths.

    “Mao is evil,” Chen said. “Socialism is evil. When we acknowledge that currency, we don’t see that evil.”

    “… By accepting this currency, you accept one premise: That killing people by the millions to acquire power is acceptable. Once you see this face (Mao) and are unmoved, you are truly transformed from an individual to a zombie.”


    Read more at http://patriotupdate.com/articles/former...lJozLWEBlEhX.99

  • Question from Jamie Glazov (Host of Glazov Gang Show):

    Kai Chen -- Can you explain how by adopting the English language, China can more easily shed itself of totalitarianism and move toward freedom. What is it about the Chinese language that has ill effects on a culture and society?
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    Will Erickson All I can say is that I had a Japanese girlfriend once. She told me that she did not like to hear people speak Japanese, because it reminded her of how sexist and oppressive Japanese culture is.
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    Will Erickson Language does effect the way people think. For example, Spanish does not have a word for 'earn'. They use the word 'ganar' - to win. Get it? People don't 'earn' of living. They get lucky and win, or beat it away from someone else.
    17 hours ago · Edited · Like · 3

    Jamie Glazov Will Erickson -- Right.....Kai Chen has some fascinating findings on this......It is very interesting how language itself either promotes or defeats individualism and pursuit of self-determination.
    17 hours ago · Like · 2

    Will Erickson Thanks Jamie, I will check it out.
    17 hours ago · Like

    Jamie Glazov We will wait for Kai Chen to comment here......
    17 hours ago · Like · 2

    Jamie Glazov I know in my own experience with the Chinese community for some 20 years......there was a huge disapprovingness from them toward me, as my nature is very individualistic and I am always doing what I want and vigorously crystallizing my own interests and desires and pursuing them. [This is obviously not mutually exclusive with generosity and compassion…which are obviously magnified when one is free rather than enslaved] …..

    In any case I didn't know it was odd to be doing what one wants to do (i.e. dating a woman that one is attracted to, and not dating a woman that one isn’t attracted to, going to a gym because one wants to, eating what one wants to, pursuing professional and recreational activities that one likes, and actually understanding that one is allowed to like and have one one’s own interests and desires etc.).

    It simply horrified them that a person would be going about one’s business ……I noticed how the children of many Chinese families I knew were almost indistinguishable from one another in character....they were not encouraged and inspired to develop separate personalities and interests, etc. And it was frowned upon if they did.

    I got a profound insight into this from Jung Chang and Jon Halliday's "Mao: The Unknown Story" which, in describing the terror that mass murdered 70 million people ..... entailed the phenomenon of how the Chinese were purged of the dare to be different. The book describes how under Mao people began to censor themselves, their own individual emotions, interests ..... humor ..... thoughts..... everything ......Even Intriguingly enough, several Chinese explained to me that the language itself helps to keep these chains and cages against individualism in check. .... and that it is no coincidence why communism succeeded in China.

    Kai Chen speaks of the Chinese language and how it aids in imprisoning humans. I will be very interested in his thoughts on this and feedback on my own experience.
    16 hours ago · Edited · Like · 2

    Will Erickson Interesting. I took Japanese in college. I met a girl that helped me a little bit. She informed me that I should not 'personalize' my speech. That conformity was expected. That there is no room for individuality in the Japanese language.
    16 hours ago · Like · 2

    Steven Ewing Jamie, what about the Russian language? Do you feel it hindered you or your parents "yearning to breath free"? I would think considering all the great Musicians, Composers, Dancers, Writers, ect... that the Russian language is very open to expression.
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    Sondra Anice Barnes July 31, 2009
    Exclusive: Arabs’ Language Oppression Squelches Intellectual Growth
    Dr. Sami Alrabaa Contributing Editor Dr. Sami Alrabaa, an ex-Muslim, is...See More
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    Sondra Anice Barnes PART 2 OF ABOVE POST:Sixty percent of Arabs are still illiterate or semi-literate and thus
    they are ostracized from reading and accessing education. The majority of
    Arabs sparsely read. They hate the pedantic structure of Standard Arabic....See More
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    Steven Ewing Isn't the problem in Arabic speaking countries more of an Islam/religion problem than a language problem?
    16 hours ago · Like

    Jamie Glazov Steven Ewing -- I don't know so much about my own language in this context.......in my own mind and what I see there is a lot of venue for individual expression.......but perhaps I am missing something.......several Russians have told me that they can ...See More
    16 hours ago · Edited · Like · 1

    Steven Ewing Jamie Glazov Do you know if there is a similar word in Russian (Русский язык) to the English word "busybody"? I heard Rush Limbaugh talking today on his show about the inclination of Socialists/Progressives to always want to control how everyone lives....See More
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    Jamie Glazov Steven Ewing V kaszhdooyoo boschkoo zadeechka (Into every hole in the bucket a filling).....it is a saying in Russian to describe an asshole who thinks he has the answer to every problem and is budding his nose into everyone's business and telling them how to live.
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    Sondra Anice Barnes Can you even guess how angry I was when I learned that here in Los Angeles, even if you live in a very nice apartment that is well cared for, that the "slum landlord police" (government workers) can enter your apartment even if you are not home and in...See More
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    Kai Chen http://www.amazon.com/.../dp/0812237110/ref=sr_1_1...

    The Writing on the Wall: How Asian Orthography Curbs Creativity (Encounters with Asia)
    www.amazon.com
    Students in Japan, China, and Korea are among the world's top performers on stan...
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    Kai Chen http://www.youpai.org/forums/viewtopic.php...

    右派论坛 Youpai Forum :: 阅读主题 - 孔儒说教的邪恶与中文语言对人认知真实的危害 The Evil of Confucianism
    www.youpai.org
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    Kai Chen Jamie: I pasted above links to give you a little background of the complex issue you have touched by your question. I deeply appreciate your attention and curiosity on this very important issue. Every language has affected the related culture deepl...See More
    14 hours ago · Like · 3

    Kai Chen Morality, values, reasoning, culture are deeply related to the language one uses. Make no mistake about this.
    14 hours ago · Like · 4

    Steven Ewing Kai Chen--Do you believe the difference between the written Chinese and written Japanese (which is at least partly based on Chinese characters) and the resulting thinking and logic patterns is big enough to have allowed Japan to become a democratic country and prevent China from moving the same direction, or is there more/something else?
    14 hours ago · Like · 1

    Kai Chen There is no difference between Japanese and Chinese in that they are character-based. But there have been some reform in the Japanese language. Yet the system Japan has now is much due to the Americans after WWII, not due to the language and culture themselves. More correctly, democracy is possible not because of the Chinese character-based language, but despite it. As long as there is American influence, freedom has a chance to grow. Without American influence, no chance. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines.., are only few such examples.
    14 hours ago · Like · 4

    Kai Chen The Chinese government is doing everything in China to prevent American influence from taking place. They have some effective measures set to counter such influence, such as corruption of the American businesses, setting up Confucius Institutes/Classr...See More
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    Steven Castle Kenney Jr III More like easily communicate to us to disarm when they come here...
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    Julie Worthey What a great conversation. I have always been interested and drawn to the subject of language and how it affects a person's perspective, thoughts, understanding..... Thank you.
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